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CED Digest Vol. 2 No. 47  •  11/22/1997


From: "Zach D." 
To: Tom Howe <>
Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 01:33:52 -0500
Subject: Digest Entry

Just some more food for thought on the "Bring back the CED!" project.

Does anyone know just WHERE the CED pressing devices might be 

I remember a few years ago on the classic video game group...  some 
guy had a great idea that all the classic gamers make a pilgrimage to 
New Mexico (Or was it Arizona) and there they would do an 
archaeological dig for a ton of overproduced atari 2600 games (ET, 
Swordquest Earthworld) for fun and for souvenirs.  So, all these 
elaborate plans were made on how and when everyone would bring their 
pup tents and there pick axes to the site for the dig.  

Only problem, no one could figure out just WHERE the location was.  
So it was about 6 months of wishful thinking.

Does anyone know where it might be? If it existed?  Is there only one 
machine? Or what?

Also, on another note from a skeptic... I think the number given as 
the number of people still using CED's... is overstated.   Even if it 
was not.. I don't think people who aren't on the internet should be 
counted!  How are they to contribute anything if they don't know?  I 
would guestimate the number of people who are CED users and are on 
the internet at what... 100?  200?  Maybe less than either of those?

I'm not against this whole deal, I think it'd be swell.. but, I say 
cut through some feasibility discussion and have someone do the leg 
work and find out where the pressing machine might be if it still 
exists.  Because, if there is no machine.. what's to do.. make 
another?  Not likely.. it probably takes a huge obsolete machine just 
to build the huge obsolete machine that is used to press the obsolete 
disks that we like so much.



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From: "Daniel P. Cayea" 
To: <>
Subject: The CED Future, Part Ten
Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 13:58:46 -0500

     The CED Future: Part  Ten Forming of a  Corporation  In the last few
digests it  has been pointed out, about the feasibilty of restarting our old,
obsolete, but  great system. After extensive research it has been found that
publishing  current films would be outside a realistic grasp. I do however
believe, as  well as other who believe, that it is realistic and possible to
restart the  manufacture of diamond stylus needles for our players.   Recently
I asked those who  would interested to form into corporation with me so that we
could pool  resources and start this project. I recieved little response and I
do  thank those who did respond. I was asked that amung those who would 
participate in such a corporation, who would manage the money. It  would be
necessary to decide amungs ourselves to nominate a person who would let  be
known their capabilities of forming a corporation. In this there were  also
some questions that were asked and I would like to answer them now.    What
would the name of the  company or corporation be? This hasn't been finalized
and won't be until it is  absolutely sure that 1.8 million dollars can be
secured for the starting of the  project.  Who would manage the  money?
Either an accounting firm selected by the head of the corporation,  or the
corporation would mange the finances.  Who would run the  corporation? Amung
us who would join into corporation, we must decide  amungst ourselves who would
be best certified to fulfill the position of  CEO.  If there are any other 
questions, please don't hesitate to ask.  Daniel P. Cayea Telecom 

From: "Daniel P. Cayea" 
To: <>
Subject: Searching for CED Discs'
Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 14:17:57 -0500

     Dear Fellow CED Users:  My company is in search of the following titles
for donation  or possible purchase to be integrated with the National
Capacitance Disc  Library.  James Bond Titles Star Wars Titles Police Academy
Titles Star Trek Titles  Thanks  Dan Cayea

From: "Daniel P. Cayea"
To: <>
Subject: The CED Future: Part Eleven
Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 16:45:16 -0500

     The CED Future: Part Eleven  (V1.0) National Capacitance Disc  Library &
Corporation Notes  I have written to you for  ten previous times now asking
for support and those who have offered I am  grateful for your help and hope
you stay tuned with my articles on Tom Howe's  CED Digest to stay informed.  
I have started a library  through my company Telecom Technologies, and as the
header might indicate it is  called the National Capacitance Disc Library. The
mission of this library  is to accumulate several copies of every title
released in the CED Format for  loan by any person with a CED Player. This
library is not  a non-profit organization. There would be a charge for loaning
discs,  which would be a relatively small fee. This small fee would cover 
inventory, shipping, and maintenance costs of the library. If anyone can  make
a donation either discs or players to the library, it would be  appreciated.
On the same note I would like to thank Bill  Blasjkowicz and others who made
donations to the library. If you  would like to loan a film from the library
send your request to with the name of the  film and
publisher (RCA or CBS). I will respond to your request whether or  not we have
it available and what the fee will be.  Onto another tune dealing  with the
corporation of CED users. I suggest a name 'Capacitance  Corporation'. It has
come to my understanding that no company uses this  name and it is somewhat
catchy. Those who were interested in joining into  corporation, please email
me, so I can email with you the proper  informaiton.  -Dan Cayea -Telecom
Technologies & Capacitance  Corporation

From: "George Butts" 
To: <>
Subject: New CED releases
Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 16:34:47 -0800

I have been reading the different opinions about the feasibility of bringing
back the CED format.   I work in the television industry and I would agree
that I can't imagine that there would be any movie companies that would even
consider allowing their films to be released on the CED format.   It just
wouldn't be cost effective for them.
I think talking about releasing new films on CED is alike to longing for
audio recording to be released on 8-track.   I love both of the formats, but
the charm of them is that they are obsolete and so many people consider them
junk.  That's why it's so fun when you find a nice stash of CED's in a
thrift store that hundreds of people have probably walked by and asked,
"What the heck are those?"   The fact that people are donating these to
thrift stores says something about their value to the general public.   They
are one step away from just being tossed in the garbage can.
I do, however, think that forming a company to manufacture new parts for the
existing players would be a feasible idea.  A small electronics
manufacturing company might be very interested in taking on this project for
a sales potential of a couple hundred thousand units.  I think that's where
the efforts should be concentrated, not in bringing back movies on CED.
Does anyone out there really want to pay from $25 to $35 for a movie
released on CED?   They were $25 when the format was alive.   My guess is
that if they were ever to be released again they'd be considerably more
today.   To me, it's much more satisfying to find some original films in
near mint condition for 98 cents each!  I just picked up 40 movies from
Goodwill that are obviously from a private collection because they look and
play superbly.   98 cents apiece!  That's what collecting CED's is all
about.  The thrill of the hunt.
When you decide to start a company to manufacture parts sign me up.  I'll
gladly pay my $10.

Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 09:59:00 -0700
To: Tom Howe <>
From: "Marlin Bates, IV" 
Subject: Elephant Parts CED and more for sale

I have the following for sale.  All prices INCLUDE shipping.  $5 each
unless marked:

American Gigolo
Rocky III
Start To Finish
The Bad News Bears
Richard Pryor Live in Concert
Fanatstic Voyage (RCA)
Elephant Parts (Michael Nesmith)  $20

Will also trade 2 of mine for 1 of yours I do not have.(Except Elephant Parts)


---***     Videos, VWs, & Video games...sad and pathetic but social
---***     Marlin Bates, owner: '69 VW Westfalia Bus aka Lazarus
---***     XL/XE: 236/ Lynx: 80/ Jag: 58/ Sega: 89/ CED: 1197/ TG:70/ 3DO: 43
--*-*-*    Always looking for RCA VideoDisks (aka CED)
-*--*--*   Web Page:

From: vidajf16
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 11:52:14 CST
Subject: subscribe

I need a working player, preferably with a remote.  Drop me a line if
you have one.
-James Vida

Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 13:14:14 -0800 (PST)
From: Jesse Skeen 
To: Tom Howe <>
Subject: Re: CED Digest Vol. 2 No. 46

Got a question for everyone: How many of you, when buying discs, take 
them out of the covers to check for condition and/or if it's the right 
movie, or play the first few minutes as soon as you get them?
Part of the appeal of my CED collection is that there are literally 
thousands of hours of material that I have never seen; one of the biggest 
allures of the format is not being able to see the disc too (just like 
under normal use you would never see the spool of tape inside an 
8-track.) I like to be surprised when I pick out a movie I haven't 
watched yet and know nothing of what it's about.
However, I just ran into a disaster. Going through some of my old VHS 
tapes recorded off TV, back when I was so poor I had only one VCR and had 
to tape movies off independent TV stations, I was watching some of the 
commercials with my closed-captions turned on and a promo for a showing 
of "Hard Country" came on. What was funny was that the master they were 
using was captioned, so whatever captions were present in the clips they 
were showing showed up on the screen. This station always used movies in 
their original format, unedited (complete with bad language and stuff 
until they got a ton of complaints; they're now a Fox affiliate) and I'd 
never seen captions on any of these; so I got out my CED of "Hard 
Country", which I'd been meaning to watch anyway since it looked like an 
interesting movie, and it turned out to be disc 2 of "Never Say Never 
Again!" This was the first time I had gotten the wrong movie when trying 
to watch one; the only other time was when I had 2 copies of "Arthur" and 
one of them turned out to have "Game of Death" inside. I have no other 
copies of Hard Country though so I'll just have to keep an eye out for 
another copy.
Does anyone else do what I do and just await surprises, or do you check 
the disc right away to at least make sure it's the right one?

From: "Daniel P. Cayea" 
To: <>
Subject: National Capacitance Disc Library
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 20:55:09 -0500

Dear Fellow CED'ers:

As part of my company project to enhance and re-enact the CED format as
much as possible, I have started the National Capacitance Disc Library, a
profit organization that I have developed to build it's CED resources to
great extents for access by all those with CED Players and Interest. 
Currently the NCD Library is small and few resources but plans are in the
making to reverse this.  There are however some catches about people
loaning materials from the library.  More information can be obtained by
subscribing to the NCDL Newsletter by sending an emal to with the words SUBSCRIBE NCDL in the subject box. 
More information can also be obtained by visiting the temporary web site at, please excuse the
long URL, but it is temporary.


Dan Cayea, TTI

*This message authenticated and originated from Telecom Technologies
TTI is located in Lyon Mountain, New York USA


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