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CED Digest Vol. 2 No. 4  •  1/25/1997


From: (Neil Wagner)
Subject: Re: Music CED/LDs
Date: Sun, 19 Jan 1997 17:21:04 GMT

On Mon, 13 Jan 1997 (Emmanuel Goedseels)

>I was just wondering if such catalog exists for LD's (from '86
>until now).  I know what is available now, but what was available
>just after the "LaserVision/CED" times.

Since the laser format actually predated the CED format by a few
years, you should be looking for laser titles from about '79 through
'86 as well.  I too am curious if such a listing exists.

FWIW, I have several of the older Pioneer Artists 8-inch laser discs:
  Pointer Sisters, So Excited, 7 songs, 30 min., 1986
  Martin Briley, Dangerous Moments, 3 songs, 14 min., 1985
  Heart, 4 songs, 17 min., 1986
an older 12-inch laser disc:
  MTV Closet Classics, 14 songs, 60 min., 1986
and a newer MCA 8-inch laser disc:
  Spinal Tap, Break Like the Wind, 3 songs, 13 min., 1992

In CED, I have the prized "rockumentary" about The Who, "The Kids Are
Alright."  I was told this was the first ever stereo CED.  Can anyone
confirm this?

Neil -

From: (Neil Wagner)
Subject: Videodisc History, Part 8
Date: Sun, 19 Jan 1997 17:21:11 GMT

More from the vaults of Popular Science.

>From the November 1980 "Look and Listen" by John Free -

Video-disc Update
  Another comabatant in the coming 1981 battle over video discs may be
General Electric.  GE announced just before the electronics show [CES
in Chicago - ed.] that it's discussing a joint venture with Japan's
Matsushita and JVC and England's Thorn EMI Ltd. to market the VHD
(video high density) disc system and its software (programming).  The
VHD system was demonstrated at the Consumer Electronics Show by Pana-
sonic and JVC, both Matsushita subsidiaries.  The giant Japanese firm
says it may have VHD players on the market by late 1981.  They would
be priced to compete with RCA's under-$500 SelectaVision disc palyer,
slated for introduction early in 1981.  RCA recently dubbed its system
CED, for Capacitance Electronic Disc; it will also be sold by Sears
  Both the CED and VHD systems sense TV signals encoded as capacitance
variations in discs when a stylus contacts the disc surface.  But
discs for one system are not compatible with the other.  Magnavox and
Pioneer both expect to market their optical systems ($700-$750)
nationwide next year, too.  Optical discs, played back by a laser
beam, are compatible between the Pioneer and Magnavox players.

>From the June 1981 "What's New in Electronics" -

CED Videodisc
  Insert a CED videodisc into this Hitachi VIP-1000 player and enjoy
the show for the next two hours.  Buttons control two fast-forward and
reverse speeds, pause, and still framing.  The $500 player has
connections for audio, video, or RF output and for optional remote
control.  [A small picture of the player accompanies the article.]

Neil -

From: "Zach D." 
To: Tom Howe <>
Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 15:03:10 -0500
Subject:  CED Digest Entry

Fellow CED Collectors:

I finally put my CED want/trade/sale list on-line.

Please visit

This is my immediate for-sale/trade list followed by my most wanted 
list (bigger lists are on the web site)

Zach's For Sale or Trade List:

2001:  A Space Odyssey            CBS       Disk 2 Only    $3.00
American Werewolf in London, AN   RCA                      $6.00
Animal House, Natl. Lampoon's     RCA                      $6.00
Blazing Saddles                   RCA                      $6.00
Blues Brothers                    RCA       Disk 2 Only    $3.00
Dumbo, Walt Disney's              RCA                     $10.00
Fistful of Dollars, A             RCA                      $6.00
Heaven Can Wait                   RCA                      $3.00
He-Man & the Masters of the Univ  RCA       4 episodes     $9.00
Flaming Star                      CBS       Elvis Baby    $10.00
Good, The Bad, and The Ugly, The  CBS       2 Disks        $6.50
Graduate, The                     RCA                      $6.00
Magnificent Seven, The            RCA       Disk 1 Only    $3.00
Quick Dog Training with B. Wood   RCA                      SOLD
Searchers, The                    RCA                      $6.00
Star Trek the Motion Picture      RCA       2 Disks       $15.00
Star Trek II: The Wrath of Kahn   RCA                      $8.00
Vacation, National Lampoon's      RCA                      $6.00
Wild Bunch, The                   RCA       2 Disks        $6.00

Zach's Most Wanted List!

4  Clockwork Orange, A (2) {76476031213}
4  Taxi Driver {76476030322}
4  Blade Runner** {42995138061}
4  Pee-wee's Big Adventure** {25757115234}
4  Lolita (2) {27616100689}
4  Apocalypse Now {76476006679}
4  Barbarella {76476006105}
4  Citizen Kane {76476004019}
4  Psycho {76476033156}
4  Return of the Jedi (2)** {24543147893}
3  Blow Out {76476019037}
3  Rosemary's Baby (2) {76476006211}
3  Deer Hunter, The (2)** {76476133115}
3  Warriors, The {37757011225}
3  Metalstorm: The Destruction of Jared-Syn** {47897400452}
3  Yor, the Hunter from the Future {76476030728}
3  Breathless {76476019136} (Is this Goddard film or 80's?)
3  King of Comedy, The {76476021702}


Talk to ya later,

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Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 08:46:44 -0800
From: "Allen F. Hauss"
Subject: Toshiba Belt needed!

I have a Wards GEN 10301 (Toshiba 100) player, and am in need of the 
platter drive belt!  Any help locating one would be greatly appreciated! 
allen hauss

Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 12:01:27 -0600
From: David Potochick 
Subject:  Checking CED Numbers & Etc......

I usually just put my car key in the slot of the CED and open it in a store....
This is fast for me.... Then I make sure that the number on the disk
matches the number on the caddy.... Now  I do that more than before....


The Benji CED that I washed is still working fine......


I recently bought Cheech And Chongs "Nice Dreams".... When I got it
home, I found out that it was a little too warped to play properly.... Does
anyone know a good way to flatten CED's???? I really don't want to end
up damaging this movie...... 



Date: Sat, 25 Jan 1997 19:11:47 -0800
From: Tom Howe 

Subject:      Original VideoDisc Dates Back to 1927
From:         Tom Howe 
Date:         1997/01/19
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There was recently a thread where someone believing the RCA SelectaVision
VideoDisc was the first VideoDisc format was corrected by some subsequent
posts indicating the LaserDisc predated it by a few years. Well, the
first VideoDisc format was actually John Logie Baird's Phonovision, first
produced in 1927 and commercially sold in a modified form in Great
Britain during the early 1930's. After a long period of VideoDisc
inactivity, the A.E.G. Telefunken Teldec system was publicly demonstrated
in June 1970, and commercially sold in Germany for about a year starting
in April 1975. An article on Teldec appears in the January 1971 issue of
_Popular Science_. 

More information on the 1927 Phonovision can be found at this website:

And to get an idea what 30 lines of video resolution looked like back
then, check out the quicktime movie at this site:

--Tom Howe
CED Magic at
Extensive Information on the RCA SelectaVision VideoDisc System


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