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poule924
Joined: 24 Oct 2012 Posts: 19 Location: FRANCE
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Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 2:27 pm Post subject: problem video hitachi vip201p |
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Hello,
I have a problem with an hitachi VP201P Pal.
I have sound but not video on screen, nothing.
I try in yellow rca(composite) and aerial.
I change stylus (new cedatum) and all belts.
Maybe idea?
Thanks
JF |
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poule924
Joined: 24 Oct 2012 Posts: 19 Location: FRANCE
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Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 11:05 am Post subject: |
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| nothing idea ? |
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blindfury420

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Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 2:07 pm Post subject: |
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Does the audio work?
Did you try the coaxial hook up?
Does the disc tray lower?
Does the stylus arm move when disc tray lowers?
Hitachi style models are really, really hard to repair. I only like to deal with mechanical repairs on hitachi models because parts for the electronics are not readily available. Even motors have to be taken from broken players.
I can try and help you but these players really are a hit or a miss  _________________ I dont own
McMicheal 5001h
Hitachi VIP202P
JCP 686-5705
RCA SKT265, SKT300
RCA SJT400X, SJT425 |
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poule924
Joined: 24 Oct 2012 Posts: 19 Location: FRANCE
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Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 2:54 pm Post subject: |
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audio works,
disc turn , up and down loading works.
All works except video.
still need to try the aerial.
thanks for helping!! |
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Beetlescott

Joined: 03 Oct 2010 Posts: 2085
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Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 6:26 pm Post subject: |
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Sounds like you may need a new stylus. I have an extra one for sale if you want one, 30.00 shipped. Shoot me an email if you are interested.
Beetlescott@msn.com |
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poule924
Joined: 24 Oct 2012 Posts: 19 Location: FRANCE
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Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 9:53 am Post subject: |
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| I already changed stylus by a new (cedatum) |
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blindfury420

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Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 10:42 am Post subject: |
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It has to be something electronic. I have never had audio and no video or vice versa caused by a stylus. I wish I could help more  _________________ I dont own
McMicheal 5001h
Hitachi VIP202P
JCP 686-5705
RCA SKT265, SKT300
RCA SJT400X, SJT425 |
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Rixrex

Joined: 28 May 2004 Posts: 1222
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Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 5:37 pm Post subject: |
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Do you run the same current as the UK? Meaning both 220 volts and 50 Hz (cycles)?
Also, is your TV set able to accept UK PAL signals, not just Secam?
Have you tried the RF or arial connection yet? |
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blindfury420

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Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 5:53 pm Post subject: |
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Hahah I completely forgot they could be different.
United Kingdom 230 V - 50 Hz socket type G
http://electricaloutlet.org/type-g
United Kingdom system - I color - PAL stereo - Nicam I
France 230 V - 50 Hz socket type E
http://electricaloutlet.org/type-e
France system - L color - SECAM stereo - Nicam L
So he needs something to convert video signal? PAL to SECAM? _________________ I dont own
McMicheal 5001h
Hitachi VIP202P
JCP 686-5705
RCA SKT265, SKT300
RCA SJT400X, SJT425 |
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Rixrex

Joined: 28 May 2004 Posts: 1222
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Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 11:02 pm Post subject: |
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Well, there's no difference in power, so that's not a problem. It has to be the PAL signal to a Secam TV if not a player problem.
I have a PAL/NTSC VCR that I once played a Secam tape on, and got no video but I got sound. |
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poule924
Joined: 24 Oct 2012 Posts: 19 Location: FRANCE
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Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 12:56 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for your helping!!
so it would be a concern for PAL or SECAM?
I have found an old VCR or an old TV.
If I have sound, it's not stylus problem.
is that I can test the output rca? (composite yellow)
I love that it works as
Other idea or suggestion?
Thanks again  |
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Rixrex

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Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 8:19 pm Post subject: |
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Well, you have to have a TV like ones in the UK that accepts a PAL signal, and not just Secam.
Another way to test that you're getting a signal from the Video out is by plugging it into the audio input and listening. If you have actual video output, you will get a 50 cycle hum over the speaker because the video signal is 50 cycles. It will sound like a buzzing. That means you have Video signal.
For us in the US, we get a 60 cycle hum. Check it out and see, guys. |
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poule924
Joined: 24 Oct 2012 Posts: 19 Location: FRANCE
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Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 6:23 am Post subject: |
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The buzz is but the plug is not fully set.If I plus fully, nothing.
I try plug in rf out and search UHF and BG(UK signal).I have sound but not video.
So the problem comes from elsewhere.It's maybe electronic.
It's freaky!!
I hope this is not the stylus malfunctioning.
The stylus is new (cedatum), I doubt. |
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Rixrex

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Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 7:03 am Post subject: |
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I'm talking about the RCA plug video output, not the channel RF or arial output.
If you put that plug in all the way, and it has a video signal, then you would get the 50 cycle buzz constant. If you only get it when you first touch the plug to the input, that's probably not the video signal, unless you can get a flicker of video doing that same thing the the video input
So it sounds like you have video output issues on that player. I do not think it's the stylus at all since you get sound. However, because the player takes your voltage and transforms it to DC voltage for the electronics, you might be able to fix that player with a Hitachi from the US.
Or find an old-school electronics wizard who can diagnose the boards for you. Or get another of the same player and use that one for spare parts. |
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poule924
Joined: 24 Oct 2012 Posts: 19 Location: FRANCE
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Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 10:02 am Post subject: |
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It's with RCA, have a buzz but the plug is not fully set.
I have a little sound by yellow rca.Freaky!
For me problem with composant of motherboard. |
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Rixrex

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Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 6:38 pm Post subject: |
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| If you have no 50 cycle buzz with the plug fully set in, thenthere is no video signal output. |
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poule924
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Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 1:49 pm Post subject: |
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| Rixrex wrote: | | If you have no 50 cycle buzz with the plug fully set in, thenthere is no video signal output. |
I haven't signal video
so problem motherboard  |
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blindfury420

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Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 3:56 pm Post subject: |
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Would you like to sell some parts from it or are you trying to fix it all the way? _________________ I dont own
McMicheal 5001h
Hitachi VIP202P
JCP 686-5705
RCA SKT265, SKT300
RCA SJT400X, SJT425 |
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poule924
Joined: 24 Oct 2012 Posts: 19 Location: FRANCE
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Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 1:57 am Post subject: |
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| blindfury420 wrote: | | Would you like to sell some parts from it or are you trying to fix it all the way? |
I prefer to try and fix it because it is hard to find.
but thanks
JF |
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Rixrex

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Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 7:56 am Post subject: |
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Obviously you are used to computer terminology stating "motherboard" as the problem. There's no such thing in these older vintage units, so I think you are refering to the circuit boards, right?.
In fact you can find more than one electronics board in some units. Someone knowledgable about circuit boards and in particular, video system circuitry, who can test it is who you need. Just replacing a board may not be the answer.
For example, what if it turned out to be a problem not associated to a circuit board? Replacing the boards wouldn;t help. In the long run, it's much better to get a test done and find the exact cause rathrer than a hit or miss approach. You may find out that it's only one tiny item that needs replaced. |
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poule924
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Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 11:15 am Post subject: |
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| Rixrex wrote: | Obviously you are used to computer terminology stating "motherboard" as the problem. There's no such thing in these older vintage units, so I think you are refering to the circuit boards, right?.
In fact you can find more than one electronics board in some units. Someone knowledgable about circuit boards and in particular, video system circuitry, who can test it is who you need. Just replacing a board may not be the answer.
For example, what if it turned out to be a problem not associated to a circuit board? Replacing the boards wouldn;t help. In the long run, it's much better to get a test done and find the exact cause rathrer than a hit or miss approach. You may find out that it's only one tiny item that needs replaced. |
I'll try to test components one by one.
Thanks for your helping!! |
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blindfury420

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Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 1:58 pm Post subject: |
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Do you have a service manual for the Hitachi 201 or 202? _________________ I dont own
McMicheal 5001h
Hitachi VIP202P
JCP 686-5705
RCA SKT265, SKT300
RCA SJT400X, SJT425 |
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poule924
Joined: 24 Oct 2012 Posts: 19 Location: FRANCE
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Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 5:14 am Post subject: |
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| blindfury420 wrote: | | Do you have a service manual for the Hitachi 201 or 202? |
No, I haven't service manual.
And you have you got a service manual? (in pdf or other)
Thanks
JF |
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poule924
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Posted: Sun May 04, 2014 10:35 am Post subject: |
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Hello, a little up
I think I found, a condensator is break or desolde.
I have video now but an agry noise.
I'll change the capacitor and I'll see.
Bye
JF |
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