CED VideoDisc and Player Discussion

[Nummer6]

Hi all,

I am new to this forum which seems to be the only place on the Internet that even deals with CED players. My Hitachi VIP101P seems to have given up the ghost as it still tries to play a disc but gets stuck after loading with a horrible stuttering sound.

I am not good at all with mechanical repairs but since there is no one in Germany that deals with these machines, I opened mine up and it looked like one rubber belt had deteriorated. I replaced it with a similar rubber band from my kitchen drawer but it still made those noises and would not play the disc.

Maybe that was not the cause at all? Maybe I need a different belt? I don't have many discs (would love to get more, but this format is virtually unknown here) but I kind of love this machine and don't want to let it fall apart. Is there anyone here who knows about PAL machines and how I could get it fixed?

Any help would be greatly appreciated...

Thanks in advance!

[dumbchemist]

You are almost there. Go to cedmagic.com. Click on the navigation menu and you will see the entry "Products for Purchase". Select it and then scroll down and you will see a table listing the belts available for sale for a great many models of CED players. I have 2 Hitachi/Sears players and got the needed 2 belts for each of them from cedmagic.com. Hope this helps.
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Sears 934-54780150 & 934.54810350,
Realistic CED-1
1-SJT-400. 2-SJT-200 & 1-SJT-090.
CLD-D406, CLD-980.
MDP-600, MDP-MR1.

[Nummer6]

Thanks for the reply! I checked it out but the only problem is that I don't know which Hitachi model is the US equivalent of my machine. They all look kind of similar.

The other problem is that I don't know what belt I replaced (I was really looking inside a piece of equipment for the very first time!). Well, I could just order all of them and see what fits. Unless you or anyone else has some idea about what could be wrong..? Maybe there are pictures and repair instructions somewhere on this site? I haven't found any.

[dumbchemist]

Your player sounds similar to VIP201P; but, I cannot be certain.

Maybe someone else on this forum can help you as I am in unfamiliar territory.
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Sears 934-54780150 & 934.54810350,
Realistic CED-1
1-SJT-400. 2-SJT-200 & 1-SJT-090.
CLD-D406, CLD-980.
MDP-600, MDP-MR1.

[Dude111]

Welcome!!!!!

I hope you get your player up and running

[andreas_3]

Hi Number6.
I'm also in Germany (Stuttgart) and have a Hitachi CED-Player (along with it some 30 CEDs) , which makes weird noises as well when I tried it lately after 2 or 3 year (then it worked perfectly). I did not look into it yet, but I think that it might be a belt problem, too. Maybe we can get in contact and help each other with hints or order the belts from cedmagic together
Greetings from Stuttgart, Andreas

[Nummer6]

Hi Andreas,

and I thought I were the only one in Germany with a player. I can't PM you, seems to be disabled. You can e-mail me at

strawdog (at) web (dot) de

I want to order some of these belts, we can make a joint order.

[Rixrex]

If that player is making such a sound, that could be either a bad disc loading belt under the disc tray, or broken or slipping gearing that pulls the disc tray down, or even broken or loose circumferential spring that holds tension on the gearing. That whole gearing arrangement is sensitive. That's what I'd check forst.

An unlikely cause of such noise would be the toothed belt that moves the stylus arm located at the left rear of the player.

[Nummer6]

Thanks Rixrex for the reply! That sounds very serious, certainly more difficult than just replacing a belt. I'm gonna order the belts anyway since they are cheap but in case that doesn't help, are there any fixes for the problems you described? I am sure that one would have to be very experienced with fixing CED players to make such a repair. Are there even spare parts for those mechanisms anymore?

[Rixrex]

All of the mechanical parts for the PAL players are the same as the US players made by Hitachi, including various Sears models. Available only from a parts player as far as I know.

That problem location needs to be identified first. You need to operate the player with the top cover removed and see if you can locate the general sound location by listening.

Also, once the cover is off, you can access the pulleys that bring down the disc tray. By turning the pully, you can lower and raise the tray manually without a disc inserted, and you can see if that particluar gearing assembly is defective, However you must do this carefully, because if you try to force the pully past the stop point, you can damage the gear assembly further. It is only plastic after all.

You will also be able to see the toothed belt at the back of the player. This belt rarely goes bad. The one belt you cannot see will be the belt located under the stylus arm. That's the tough one to access. You have to lift up the arm slightly and try to move the pully with a finger to roll the stylus arm out of the way. Then that belt can be replaced.

[Nummer6]

Sorry for resurrecting this old thread but it took me until now to find the time to open up my player and replace all the belts (which I ordered from here). It wasn't easy for me but after a full days work I did it.

The only problem is that the stuttering sound still exists and the discs won't play

But since the player is open now, I can see where the sound comes from. It's a little spring that's attached to the timing belt (the one that rarely goes bad according to Rixrex, but since I already replaced the other two belts with no luck I decided to give it a try).

When the disc starts spinning nothing happens for a while. Then it seems like the stylus arm wants to get into motion and that's when the hook of that little spring seems to "jump" over the teeth of the timing belt. When I pulled the stylus arm forward a little bit it retracted with the smooth sound I know from pressing "Reset". No stuttering there. But it still refused to play.

I hope my description makes sense to someone on this forum. I am at a loss on how to proceed or what else besides the belts might be faulty. The arm drive belt and the loading belt where pretty worn out so I hope that my actions were not completly in vain.

Any help is greatly appreciated!