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I'm so glad LPs are making a comback! I love vinyl!!!! |
How many boxes ya want? a buddy of mine gave me a couple hundred to wade through- kept what I wanted donated the rest. He asked me the other day id I was ready for a couple more boxes..... [/quote
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I LOVE finding any of these 4 with the COLGEMS label. They were re issued in the 80s on the RHINO label. These are the first 4 of the Monkees lbs, the first 4 hit #1 on the charts, and the 5th one #3. I'm also looking for any of the other Monkees lps.
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Here is #6 from the Monkee movie, Head:).
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#7 Then there were 3
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#8
The Monkees Present: Michael, Davy & Micky
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Then there were 2!!! There was a cruel joke going around when Michael Nesmith left saying, the next album, when one of the others leave the ablum will be called "The Monkee" fortunately for an old fan like me, that didn't happen.
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Sorry for hijacking the thread! Scott if you see any of these in Colgems label, (i'm interested in Rhino too) let me know!!!
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| Beetlescott wrote: | | I'm so glad LPs are making a comback! I love vinyl!!!! |
Hell yeah...nothing like it on earth! that's the ONE format that never slipped through my fingers.
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| Alchemy wrote: | | Beetlescott wrote: |
I'm so glad LPs are making a comback! I love vinyl!!!! |
How many boxes ya want? a buddy of mine gave me a couple hundred to wade through- kept what I wanted donated the rest. He asked me the other day id I was ready for a couple more boxes..... |
Whoa.....we definitely need to talk more about these.
Although they are rarely stored correctly, have scratches from changers and have mold and fingerprints to boot.....but still, they can usually be revived with some work.
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| Midwinter wrote: | | Real1shepherd wrote: |
I got into a similar discussion before about how consumers don't support playback only devices. And I was like EXCUSE ME??.....almost every home in America has a DVD player of some sot. 
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I think I found your discussion on the Vintage Computers forum. I have an account there, but I rarely post.  |
Small word and yeah, I think that's the place. I don't even know why I found it, or why I was in there.
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Monkees were just in concert out here a few weeks back- over at the coast I think.
So far it runs heavily to country and then there's the surprise ones, it is like a treasure hunt. BTW- very few of them would rate as very good, closer to poor. Which is why I will clean them and then throw them on my cheapy TT
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| Alchemy wrote: | Monkees were just in concert out here a few weeks back- over at the coast I think.
So far it runs heavily to country and then there's the surprise ones, it is like a treasure hunt. BTW- very few of them would rate as very good, closer to poor. Which is why I will clean them and then throw them on my cheapy TT |
Hmmmm....not really looking for "poor" if they can't be restored to their former glory. Have too much invested in analog equipment to subject the TT for example, to bad LP's. The LP rumble is bad enough to deal with in many labels from the past.....enough so that I can't tape without a rumble filter. Life was infinitely easier in the college dorm. 
I can live without The Monkees; TV's first contrived rock band. And boy oh boy do they look bad today. Shame on them and all the rest of the aging rockers that think they still 'have it'. Missed your chance to see your favorite 'super group' back in the day....wait and see them now at your state or county fair....blaaaa
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Yeah, really. While many reach retirement and sit around playing bridge and lamenting the disappearance of "the good old days", others have promoters throw vast sums of money at them to get in front of thousands of people, play a few old hits, hear "we love you" screamed by throngs of adoring fans, and walk home with enough cash to wind down the clock in style and luxury.
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"Yeah, really." Except that their 'crowds' are aging as well, meager by their 'back in the day' standards, the songs they sing sound like sh*t and they make about enough money to enable them to come back and hurt more ears. Here's a newsflash for ya, they could have managed their original money better, backed newer bands/artists and stayed in the music business in a positive way. But in America, ego & greed always win out.
Not trying to start a argument here, but we have very, very different views of what the rock scene was/is. As far as "lamenting about the good old days', rock musicians today start earlier, the business is more structured, the instruments/amps available are better quality, the business is more competitive albeit less driven by pioneering originality. However, in spite of all that, rock is alive & well...even flourishing. It's a little more dark & violent then I care for sometimes, but so is our society.
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I'm not trying to start an argument either, mostly because it would obviously be quite pointless. Your premise appears to be 1) old acts should just go away 2) old audiences are incapable of understanding what they like 3) equipment technology makes better bands and 4) there's only one "rock scene" and it should fit your viewpoint.
All of these points are laughable. But since your conviction seems to be fueled by some strange deep-seated anger about The Monkees, there really isn't a whole lot of point in trying to understand what the hell you're on about. It's all kind of baffling.
As for me, I applaud anyone who gets up and goes out and does their thing. Are they doing it for the money? Maybe. Bands, especially from the 60s, were notoriously screwed out of what was rightfully theirs - usually by people who were supposed to be taking care of them. Are they doing it for one last shot at fame? Maybe. And so what? Who's to stop them if people are buying tickets?
Lots of people like and will pay good money to go see all kinds of performances. Your assertion that they are deluded - and the acts they are seeing should hang it up because some people don't like them - is childish and sad. But enjoy your "rock scene". I don't want any part of it, but I won't hang around forums crapping on stuff that you like for kicks. |
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| 7jlong wrote: | I'm not trying to start an argument either, mostly because it would obviously be quite pointless. Your premise appears to be 1) old acts should just go away 2) old audiences are incapable of understanding what they like 3) equipment technology makes better bands and 4) there's only one "rock scene" and it should fit your viewpoint.
All of these points are laughable. But since your conviction seems to be fueled by some strange deep-seated anger about The Monkees, there really isn't a whole lot of point in trying to understand what the hell you're on about. It's all kind of baffling.
As for me, I applaud anyone who gets up and goes out and does their thing. Are they doing it for the money? Maybe. Bands, especially from the 60s, were notoriously screwed out of what was rightfully theirs - usually by people who were supposed to be taking care of them. Are they doing it for one last shot at fame? Maybe. And so what? Who's to stop them if people are buying tickets?
Lots of people like and will pay good money to go see all kinds of performances. Your assertion that they are deluded - and the acts they are seeing should hang it up because some people don't like them - is childish and sad. But enjoy your "rock scene". I don't want any part of it, but I won't hang around forums crapping on stuff that you like for kicks. |
Nice try, but you have no argument because you refuse to take my points intelligently, now that you've put your sarcasm aside.
I never said these groups should just "go away'. I said I can't take them seriously these days and that they sound quite awful in comparison to how they sounded in their youth. To give you a quick lesson in rock 'n roll; it was and always will be about teenage male angst and the ability for 'someone' (who is also young) to express such. And since it's always been a blend of 200% energy, sex & drugs, the physical/psychological timetable for such an endeavor in a male is a limited, small window (see the self-deprecating rock parody:This Is Spinal Tap).
If anything, rocks groups today are lasting longer, no doubt due in part to the stories an accounts of 60-70's rock n' rollers who did everything wrong with their success and their money. Your assumption is that the 60-70's rock 'n rollers were just cheated out of their holdings. Yeah, many were...but they were adults and could have hired better business people and lawyers. The fact that their lifestyle commonly overruled their sensible decisions is well, their issue isn't it? Do you routinely in life 'hurt' for people who had fame & fortune and then lost it?
I have nothing against The Monkees....I rather liked some of their songs in my early youth....at least until I grew up a bit and understood what they were really about and how they became a 'band'. But to tell ya the truth, I gotta laugh out loud at anybody defending the rock validity of seniors reenacting The Monkees' music. Do you even know that in the beginning of The Monkees, someone else sang the music and played the instruments?
But you're correct; anybody who wants to pony up the money at your state and county fair to hear them, should be able to. As far as the screaming fans who tired to tear their clothes off in their youth...nah. More like retired soccer moms who do the arm-wave thing. What's "childish' is to assert that The Monkees have any present claim to fame in the rock scene. More like a very narrow niche market window. And your points about present day rockers are disillusion at best-they are everything the 'old' rockers were and more. More, because their music is built intrinsically upon the foundation of 50's/60's/70's rock 'n roll.....as it should be. Rock has evolved for the better; so you either embrace it, or desperately cling to the old stuff-certainly your choice. If you were a musician in the 60-70's, perhaps you would appreciate just how good the present music really is. And I certainly don't hear aging rock artists condemning present day rock music....just their fans.
And as far as being able to come on a site and express an opinion (or as you said, crap on The Monkees), I should be able to do that. You chose to prop their present popularity with a strawhorse argument. So yeah, I'm pretty much "baffled" by your defense, as well.
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"you have no argument because you refuse to take my points intelligently"
You're right, because your points don't appear to have much intelligence behind them - only misplaced posturing.
"I said I can't take them seriously these days and that they sound quite awful in comparison to how they sounded in their youth."
Nice backpedaling, but still it is your opinion - which you choose to present as fact, and in the process take a high-minded, condescending opinion about any/all of their fans. How noble.
"To give you a quick lesson in rock 'n roll"
How delightfully arrogant of you. Not surprising.
"it was and always will be about teenage male angst and the ability for 'someone' (who is also young) to express such. And since it's always been a blend of 200% energy, sex & drugs, the physical/psychological timetable for such an endeavor in a male is a limited, small window (see the self-deprecating rock parody:This Is Spinal Tap)."
Wow. OK. So you're a rock chauvinist to boot.
I had laid out responses to your entire post, but I can't see the point anymore. It is in fact you who is clinging to a backwards, outdated notion of "what rock is", and my input isn't going to much change that. Without even trying I can think of at least a dozen reasons why your "male angst" vision applies to a laughably narrow view of rock, not to mention the ridiculousness of this window of opportunity you mention (I just saw 3 shows - Toronto, Boston, NYC - by late 70s band Wire. Collective age of the 3 permanent members is about 175. They stormed the stage and obliterated the audience for about an hour and a half. Not that I care much what critics think, but I'm not the only one who was blown away).
But to sum it all up, here's my problem with forum trolls. Having only been here one week you fail to look around and recognize that this is a civil and friendly forum - one giving to expressing opinions as opinions and not as facts. There's debates, such as this very thread, but opinions stay opinions and facts stay facts.
So go ahead and throw around things like "the songs they sing sound like sh*t and they make about enough money to enable them to come back and hurt more ears" if it makes you feel good about yourself and your vast knowledge of what is and isn't "rock" (or whatever your point was).
The rest of us just don't hang around smearing what other forum members like - because we're just not that kind of forum. I'm sure Scott's a big boy and can fight his own battles, but did it make you feel warm and runny to hammer away at a band that he clearly has some affection for?
There are plenty of flame-war forums for you to vent your "rock definition" lunacy in. Find them. Have fun. |
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| Quote: | | But to sum it all up, here's my problem with forum trolls. Having only been here one week you fail to look around and recognize that this is a civil and friendly forum - one giving to expressing opinions as opinions and not as facts. There's debates, such as this very thread, but opinions stay opinions and facts stay facts. |
Actually dude, you have taken this to the next level, first with sarcasm and then aggression followed by insults. No "troll' here, but you easily bring out the worst in forum decorum. Face it, you got your panties in a bunch over someone saying anything about your precious Monkees. They were pop-rock, not even rock. I suspect you cling to the Cowsills, Donny & Marie and all the other pop-rock bands from back in the day. And anybody that dares insult them is laid to waste.....good luck with that and killing people's opinions.
No, you don't have any intelligent arguments or you would have given them...again you base everything on ad-hoc and strawhorse arguments for something that is obviously very personal to you. You really shouldn't accuse me of the very thing that you appear to be; insulting, arrogant and a troll. It doesn't matter how long I've been here, because your behavior and responses have been despicable. If you're a senior BooBa member here, then act like it. You were baited after your sarcastic response, you took it and your temper got the best of you and you know it.
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Thanks for your note. It was really enjoyable.
Actually, I don't give a damn about the Monkees' music. I own none of their records and likely never will. However, I do give a damn about people showing up and being obnoxious with their "opinions" after only being here 5 minutes.
I will face nothing. You did not present opinions, you presented your irritating, unyielding views as fact and only meant to shore up your nonsensical views as to what counts as "valid rock". Get over yourself.
Sure I'll take the bait, and why not? So you admit to baiting forum members? That is the definition of a troll, by the way.
Why would I let you get away with your blowhard declarations unchecked? What kind of expert are you, except at trashing what other people like? I don't care about the Osmonds or the Cowsills either, but so what if I did? That's your version of an insult?
Done with this. I don't care what victory you think you've scored. Sorry you're wounded by sarcasm and being challenged. The only thing I see you as being right about about is that I shouldn't have bothered even acknowledging your tedious comments. Have a nice life. |
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| Real1shepherd wrote: | | The LP rumble is bad enough to deal with in many labels from the past.....enough so that I can't tape without a rumble filter. |
Sorry to go off topic even more, but what do you use for a rumble filter? |
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| Real1shepherd wrote: | | Alchemy wrote: | Monkees were just in concert out here a few weeks back- over at the coast I think.
So far it runs heavily to country and then there's the surprise ones, it is like a treasure hunt. BTW- very few of them would rate as very good, closer to poor. Which is why I will clean them and then throw them on my cheapy TT |
Hmmmm....not really looking for "poor" if they can't be restored to their former glory. Have too much invested in analog equipment to subject the TT for example, to bad LP's. The LP rumble is bad enough to deal with in many labels from the past.....enough so that I can't tape without a rumble filter. Life was infinitely easier in the college dorm.
I can live without The Monkees; TV's first contrived rock band. And boy oh boy do they look bad today. Shame on them and all the rest of the aging rockers that think they still 'have it'. Missed your chance to see your favorite 'super group' back in the day....wait and see them now at your state or county fair....blaaaa
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Isn't it amazing when someone says, "not trying to start an argument" always end up doing it? I've seen the Monkees in concert 4 times once when they did their 20th anniversary tour (which was the number one selling concert for 1986. There were better than 10,000 screaming old people their enjoying a memory or two. My 9 year old son was sitting on my shoulders while this old man was standing in the chair! I saw them again in 2001 when they had a reunion tour, less crowd, but still did a great job. I'm glad we can all have our favorites from our past, I just don't see the point in even stopping life long enough to spit out how much you hate them?????????
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| 7jlong wrote: | I'm not trying to start an argument either, mostly because it would obviously be quite pointless. Your premise appears to be 1) old acts should just go away 2) old audiences are incapable of understanding what they like 3) equipment technology makes better bands and 4) there's only one "rock scene" and it should fit your viewpoint.
All of these points are laughable. But since your conviction seems to be fueled by some strange deep-seated anger about The Monkees, there really isn't a whole lot of point in trying to understand what the hell you're on about. It's all kind of baffling.
As for me, I applaud anyone who gets up and goes out and does their thing. Are they doing it for the money? Maybe. Bands, especially from the 60s, were notoriously screwed out of what was rightfully theirs - usually by people who were supposed to be taking care of them. Are they doing it for one last shot at fame? Maybe. And so what? Who's to stop them if people are buying tickets?
Lots of people like and will pay good money to go see all kinds of performances. Your assertion that they are deluded - and the acts they are seeing should hang it up because some people don't like them - is childish and sad. But enjoy your "rock scene". I don't want any part of it, but I won't hang around forums crapping on stuff that you like for kicks. |
Here here!!!!!! X2
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So let's see: don't discuss politics, religion OR reunion concerts..... one of these is not like the others
Far as I'm concerned- if you like the group, go see them, if you don't- you won't. Rolling Stones are all grandpas, but still put on a helluva show and people are forking over $100 a ticket for them. Sure they aren't the norm, but still they are all collecting social security (yes, I know they are british- you get the point though)
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