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undeadedwood
Joined: 06 Sep 2011 Posts: 7
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Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2011 6:45 am Post subject: Looking for a working player |
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Hello fellow collectors of the obscure,
I am hoping you could help me locate a reasonably priced completely working CED player. I have bought a couple from E-bay only to have them not work. I'm done with that.
I have a couple players I would sell cheap for parts also.
Any help would be appreciated and I look forward to joining in on the fun here.
Jason (29 Year old collector of VHS, BetaMAX, Laserdsic and CED) |
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blindfury420

Joined: 26 Jan 2011 Posts: 1036
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Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2011 12:14 pm Post subject: |
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I've got a couple extra sft-100's that have been basically refurbished and cleaned and lubed that I can sell for pretty cheap and guarantee they work or a couple sjt-090's ooo I also have a spare toshiba vp100 I think I can part with. You might be best off with an sft-100 as they are tanks and I can do those the cheapest! _________________ I dont own
McMicheal 5001h
Hitachi VIP202P
JCP 686-5705
RCA SKT265, SKT300
RCA SJT400X, SJT425 |
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Rixrex

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blindfury420

Joined: 26 Jan 2011 Posts: 1036
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Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2011 12:38 pm Post subject: |
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What models do you have as trade in ones? |
Yeah! Forgot to ask that too! _________________ I dont own
McMicheal 5001h
Hitachi VIP202P
JCP 686-5705
RCA SKT265, SKT300
RCA SJT400X, SJT425 |
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undeadedwood
Joined: 06 Sep 2011 Posts: 7
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Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2011 5:53 pm Post subject: |
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I have a SKT 090 that has motor / belt problems and a SFT 100 that simply does not power up.
I'm looking for a model with A/V out if possible.
Thanks guys |
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Rixrex

Joined: 28 May 2004 Posts: 1222
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Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2011 8:51 pm Post subject: |
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Several of the ones I have on the CEDmagic classifieds have A/V out. They are all listed there in the descriptions.
The Toshiba Blindfury has also has A/V out as I recall.
The problem with the SKT 090 might be an easy fix you can do if you can describe in more detail what's happening. Then you could have that one plus another with A/V output. While it's a fine, strong model, it isn't a really desirable one for collectors as it's the simplest model of that series. It is a great one to have as backup or for 2nd TV though.
The one that doesn't power up, SFT 100, is in the same league and to be honest, you'd get more for just selling the stylus cartridge out of the machine, and any other parts maybe. Shipping is just too high for a non-powering machine.
Unless it lights up but just won't spin the disc or play it. Is that what you mean? |
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undeadedwood
Joined: 06 Sep 2011 Posts: 7
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Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 5:56 am Post subject: |
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The 100, it is dead in every sense of the word.
The 90 powers on but would not load the CED, so I took of the top and see that the belt running from the motor (which runs all the time and sounds like a Dremel tool, I'm guessing thats not normal) is goo and nothing more. I'm able to manipulate the gears and see the loading action. I ordered a new motor and a belt from CEDMagic and it should be in my mail box today.
I've checked your classifieds and I am very interested in buying a player from you. It may be a week or so as I need to wait until pay day. It would be shipped to West Virginia (25880) any idea on an estimate for shipping?
I really appreciate all the help. |
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blindfury420

Joined: 26 Jan 2011 Posts: 1036
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Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 6:23 am Post subject: |
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your 100 will likely not be fun to fix, the 90 on the other hand should be easily repaired!
http://www.cedmagic.com/tech-info/function-motor.html
If you are hearing the motor move you probably wont have to replace the motor, just the belt. Just make sure you clean all the belt goo up! rubbing alcohol, nail polish remover(acetone) work well with q tips and paper towel. There is a few other things that can get goo gone haha. Just follow that link and read up on replacing the belt first.
If you do decide to get a player from rix go with an sgt 200 or 250 built like tanks and stereo. If you dont like that look get the sjt-200 from him as that is stereo too with audio and seek buttons! If you want a cheap sft-100 let me know  _________________ I dont own
McMicheal 5001h
Hitachi VIP202P
JCP 686-5705
RCA SKT265, SKT300
RCA SJT400X, SJT425 |
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undeadedwood
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Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 6:40 am Post subject: |
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| I did a little research Blindfury and would like to know what the price range of the Toshiba VP100 would be? |
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blindfury420

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Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 6:56 am Post subject: |
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Sorry to say undead, but I cannot sell the vp100. I am sorry about that. I thought I had another one on the way to fix. When I do know if it is coming here I will sell the other vp100 I have, If you still wanted it. I'll know for sure in a couple of days! I do have the sft-100 on the cheap and a 90. But rix also has 9 different models to choose from!
Some pics of the vp100. It has some weird markings on it other than that it looks how it should.
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McMicheal 5001h
Hitachi VIP202P
JCP 686-5705
RCA SKT265, SKT300
RCA SJT400X, SJT425 |
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Beetlescott

Joined: 03 Oct 2010 Posts: 2099
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Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 8:23 am Post subject: |
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Hello, Undead, welcome to CEDmagic!!!! We love it when new people come in. If you could go to the "Welcome" thread, tell us about yourself. Tell us how you got into this and all. Here is the link:
http://www.cedmagic.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1527&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=30
Also, along with my fellow CED'rs Darrell from CEDpro has several players for sale. He is in the classifieds too. _________________ 1000 titles
SGT-250
SJT-400
Montgomery Ward
SGT-100 |
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Rixrex

Joined: 28 May 2004 Posts: 1222
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Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 8:43 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for the kind words, Fury.
To Undead: The Wards I have for sale is same as the Toshiba you are interested in. Both that model and the Realistic have A/V outputs, but they are not stereo. The stereo models are the SGT 200 & 250, and SJT 200 and above.
Why don't you clean up the goo on your player first. Be careful when doing so so that you don't lose any parts or gears or break them at all. They aren't easily broken but can get lost, especially the two screws that hold in the panel, and the little felt washer that sits between the panel and the larger gear.
The goo is tough to clean. I've heard nail polish remover is the best and plenty of paper towels to keep things clean. Don't use anything that will melt or soften the plastic gears. Fury is right about the motor, you probably will not need a new motor. After you clean them up and put them back properly, you might want to dob on a little lubricant on the gear teeth. I only use a little bit of petroleum jelly as it's pretty inert and doesn't harden.
If you're really anxious to try out the player and cannot wait for the belt, you can temporarilly slip on a rubber band and that will allow you to operate the player. It's only a solution to allow you to operate it to see if it plays back discs, not a permanent solution.
Whenever I check out a player, I first take a soft paint brush and brush all the dust out of the player. I also check it out with the top off the player to watch all the movements and see that nothing gets hung up.
Sometimes these SJT and SKT players will not move to the LOAD position, meaning the player will not show the L on the LED panel, and that is because the disc loading gears have been rolled into a position that is too far off normal to trip all the correct switches to put it into LOAD. But that's unusual with a player handled by a new to CEDs person like yourself.
Once fixed and ready to go, you also may experience a scuffing or scraping noise from the turntable. I've found this is common with players that have been shipped and the package was turned upside down or such. It's merely a turntable issue where the table has slipped a bit on the stem and rubs on the case underneath, and is an easy fix.
If you like the way this model looks and plays, the stereo versions of it are the SJT & SKT 200, 300 and 400.
Let us know how things go so we can help further. You've come to the right place for such, and we welcome you! |
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Beetlescott

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Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 2:24 pm Post subject: |
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| blindfury420 wrote: | your 100 will likely not be fun to fix, the 90 on the other hand should be easily repaired!
http://www.cedmagic.com/tech-info/function-motor.html
If you are hearing the motor move you probably wont have to replace the motor, just the belt. Just make sure you clean all the belt goo up! rubbing alcohol, nail polish remover(acetone) work well with q tips and paper towel. There is a few other things that can get goo gone haha. Just follow that link and read up on replacing the belt first.
If you do decide to get a player from rix go with an sgt 200 or 250 built like tanks and stereo. If you dont like that look get the sjt-200 from him as that is stereo too with audio and seek buttons! If you want a cheap sft-100 let me know  |
Get his SGT250! It will be amazing how much you will appreciate the remote.
When, (not if) a movie jumps or skips, you won't have to get up and go over to the player to work the skip out. And like BlindFury said, if you deal with these guys, (Rixrex, Blind Fury, CEDpro...) You will get what they promise. All good peeps. _________________ 1000 titles
SGT-250
SJT-400
Montgomery Ward
SGT-100 |
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undeadedwood
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Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 2:34 pm Post subject: |
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You guys without a doubt are the nicest most helpful people on the internet.
Thank you for everything.
Good news the parts came in the mail today so after I finish up some loose ends I'll be (hopefully) repairing one of my players.
I forgot to mention, my best friend also has a 100, his will power on but will not under any circumstances accept a CED. Anyone have any thoughts? |
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blindfury420

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undeadedwood
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Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 6:56 pm Post subject: |
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Update guys..
Replaced the belt and now it loads the CED, but wont spit out the case. |
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Rixrex

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Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 7:34 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah, that means there's not quite enough tension on the belt when it reverses to unload the case. You probably have to give it a little help and pull the case out on your own along with the push from the belt. Best to do this with the cover off and see if you can grab the exposed rear edge of the disc caddy that's in the load slot to assist removal.
Then after you get it out, clean off the load rollers with some plain rubbing alcohol to help keep them from slipping and make sure you have no lubricant at all on the two grooves where the belt goes so it won't be slipping.
Then try it all over again. Maybe after a few times it will free up enough and work properly. Sometimes after a long time of non-use, the grease on the gears that are located on the opposite side from the belt gears gets stiff. I have an SJT 200 that will load and unload some discs right off and not do it for others, and I have to assist it occassionally.
Make sure the two sides of the disc where the rollers grab are nice and clean too. And be sure the receiver spindle is not up but dropped down on the turntable spindle as it should be. That's the round plastic device on a rod that sits on top of the center of the turntable hub.
After you get a disc loaded properly, the disc will spin up, the stylus arm will move out and the display should set to 00, indicating it's reading the disc properly. Then watch it for a couple minutes and see that the display goes to 01 then 02, and you know it's working for the most part. All this is much more fun to watch with the cover off.
Then hook up to the TV and be sure the TV is set on the same channel, 3 or 4 , that the output switch of the player is on. |
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Beetlescott

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Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2011 7:30 am Post subject: |
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| Rixrex wrote: | Yeah, that means there's not quite enough tension on the belt when it reverses to unload the case. You probably have to give it a little help and pull the case out on your own along with the push from the belt. Best to do this with the cover off and see if you can grab the exposed rear edge of the disc caddy that's in the load slot to assist removal.
Then after you get it out, clean off the load rollers with some plain rubbing alcohol to help keep them from slipping and make sure you have no lubricant at all on the two grooves where the belt goes so it won't be slipping.
Then try it all over again. Maybe after a few times it will free up enough and work properly. Sometimes after a long time of non-use, the grease on the gears that are located on the opposite side from the belt gears gets stiff. I have an SJT 200 that will load and unload some discs right off and not do it for others, and I have to assist it occassionally.
Make sure the two sides of the disc where the rollers grab are nice and clean too. And be sure the receiver spindle is not up but dropped down on the turntable spindle as it should be. That's the round plastic device on a rod that sits on top of the center of the turntable hub.
After you get a disc loaded properly, the disc will spin up, the stylus arm will move out and the display should set to 00, indicating it's reading the disc properly. Then watch it for a couple minutes and see that the display goes to 01 then 02, and you know it's working for the most part. All this is much more fun to watch with the cover off.
Then hook up to the TV and be sure the TV is set on the same channel, 3 or 4 , that the output switch of the player is on. |
Ryan, I am so iimpressed! You have a vast amount of knowledge concerning these players! The way you explain it, you can prolly just shoot me an email telling me, in detail, how to repair my SFT100. Unless you have made a video:). _________________ 1000 titles
SGT-250
SJT-400
Montgomery Ward
SGT-100 |
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blindfury420

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Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2011 7:52 am Post subject: |
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Hey Scott that was Rick's description! I was gonna respond to that but rix was able to get it out before I could hahah. I would have said same thing, its just mine would have been a run on sentence hahah.
I can send you an email detailing every step I take to get an sft-100 up and running correctly, but I do think video or pictures would be better as visual aids are unreal helpful. ya know I could ask you to check cam on stylus arm but a picture or vid would show exactly where its located! I'd like to do the video if youd like that better?! _________________ I dont own
McMicheal 5001h
Hitachi VIP202P
JCP 686-5705
RCA SKT265, SKT300
RCA SJT400X, SJT425 |
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Beetlescott

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Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2011 10:42 am Post subject: |
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| blindfury420 wrote: | Hey Scott that was Rick's description! I was gonna respond to that but rix was able to get it out before I could hahah. I would have said same thing, its just mine would have been a run on sentence hahah.
I can send you an email detailing every step I take to get an sft-100 up and running correctly, but I do think video or pictures would be better as visual aids are unreal helpful. ya know I could ask you to check cam on stylus arm but a picture or vid would show exactly where its located! I'd like to do the video if youd like that better?! |
I'm sorry, Rick! You both are amazing! I can't remember what I had for lunch, let alone how to do work on electronics. _________________ 1000 titles
SGT-250
SJT-400
Montgomery Ward
SGT-100 |
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Beetlescott

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Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2011 10:46 am Post subject: |
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| blindfury420 wrote: | Hey Scott that was Rick's description! I was gonna respond to that but rix was able to get it out before I could hahah. I would have said same thing, its just mine would have been a run on sentence hahah.
I can send you an email detailing every step I take to get an sft-100 up and running correctly, but I do think video or pictures would be better as visual aids are unreal helpful. ya know I could ask you to check cam on stylus arm but a picture or vid would show exactly where its located! I'd like to do the video if youd like that better?! |
Ryan, you are right, I need all the help I can get! I have a video deenjeep gave me last Fall on how to change the function belt on the SGT models, I prolly wouldn't of gotten it right if it hadn't been for the image WITH the instruction. So, shoot me an email and we can talk time. By the way, I'll get my list of movies up and going soon. Maybe you might want the whole lot for one your Sears players, or an SJT090s I'm trying to get one of each player. I'm pitiful. _________________ 1000 titles
SGT-250
SJT-400
Montgomery Ward
SGT-100 |
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Rixrex

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Posted: Sun Sep 11, 2011 11:47 am Post subject: |
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| undeadedwood wrote: | Update guys..
Replaced the belt and now it loads the CED, but wont spit out the case. |
So anything new to report? Did you get it to play? |
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undeadedwood
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Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 8:32 pm Post subject: |
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| Sorry I disappeared. Work got pretty hectic. I'm working on this thing this weekend and if by the end of the weekend its not working I'm buying one and maybe parting out my two players. |
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Rixrex

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Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2011 10:40 am Post subject: |
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| Well, good luck on getting it going. Keep us informed or if you need help. |
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