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Beetlescott
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 Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 4:55 pm Post subject: WHY ARE CED COLLECTORS SO PASSIONATE??? |
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I have recently become a minor collector of Laser Discs, a new buddy sent me a player and some LDs after I gave him his first CED player. I have collected DVDs and now BluRays and vinyl 45s and LPs But I have noticed that people who are major CED player and Discs really seem to enjoy it more than the others. I know I get so excited when I find CEDs setting in an antique mall or estate sale. Or find another collector who likes to trade!!! Why do you suppose we all love doing it? To be honest, the other formats don't have skips, don't get so damaged when stacked flat, Usually any other format will play without those worries. Why is it? Any opinions???
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Jesse Skeen
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I love them just because they're such a forgotten format. The internet seems to have brought back awareness of them, but when I started collecting most people didn't know what they were.
I also liked the idea of playing them in the best available quality- right now I can watch them upscaled to 1080p with Pro-Logic surround sound. CED may not be the best quality format, but there's something about getting it to look and sound as good as possible, partially with the help of new technology that probably wasn't intended to be used with it.
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I agree. When I played my Dolly in London disc the other day, I got chill bumps!! I think it is sweet sounding. Now, in my CED room, I have my older Onkyo receiver hooked up with just two speakers. The receiver only works on "bypass" mode, using only 2 speakers makes it sound about like it did back in the old days.
Jesse I have noticed since I started lurking in here 3 years ago, and I have seen much more activity now than when I first joined. It's good to see so much interest these days. Still most people don't know what I'm talking about.
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Jesse Skeen
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Little-known fact- Dolly in London is SQ quad encoded! Modern equipment can decode it pretty closely on Pro-Logic II Music mode. A number of Pioneer Artists laserdiscs were secretly mixed for quad, I've been told.
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Jesse Can you explain this to me a little more? You mean it would actually have 4 separate channels on a home theater? Sorry for my ignorance.
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Matt Fisher
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| Beetlescott wrote: | | Jesse Can you explain this to me a little more? You mean it would actually have 4 separate channels on a home theater? Sorry for my ignorance. |
Yes, the disc would have four different audio tracks, right and left front and rear. It you want to do this by the book, you'd need an SQ decoder and, depending on the decoder, two extra speakers or two extra channels of amplification and speakers. SQ was one of the competing quad formats for LPs in the seventies and the one backed by Columbia records. Good decoders, like the Tate Fosgate or top-end Sonys go for quite a bit. SQ was a matrixed format, like the original Dolby Surround, so I do believe that Jesse is correct about Dolby PLII music mode being able to do a pretty good job of retrieving the rear-channel information, although I admit that I haven't tried it. On a disc like Dolly in London, I'm guessing most of the rear info would be crowd noise anyway, so I would expect you'd be hard-pressed to tell the difference between decoding with a real SQ decoder and PLII. Since there seem to more than a few stereo CEDs with Dolby Surround audio, I wonder why this, or any of the laserdiscs, was released in SQ. Not to mention the fact that SQ was essentially dead by 1977 or so. Very odd. |
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| Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 11:18 am Post subject: Why are CED collectors so passionate? |
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The reason I am quite interested in CED is probably different from that of most people on the forum because of my age. I moved to Los Angeles in 1975 and was working for several years at various short term, deadend electronic technician jobs. In early 1981 , I was finally hired by a large, well-known media company for a pretty good salary. To celebrate, a number of months later, I got a Montgomery Ward (Toshiba) CED player and a number of discs. Thus, CED reminds me of my "graduation" to big time media tech jobs.
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I grew up with this format...and almost all of my family members on my dad's side owned at least one per member and about 100 movies each. My grandmother got one for her and one for me when our local dealer went out of business and sold everything at auction (Lair's RCA; Bellefonte, AR).
When VHS took over, the players ended up in closets and under beds; and would not be seen again until I was about 17 years old when I dragged one out from under grandma's bed. It didn't work but I was determined to get it going again. All of the models were SJT-100s except one which was the SJT-200. I love the technology and there are a lot of great movies that are not available on DVD or Blu-Ray; let alone VHS. Some kid movies like Great Space Chase, Great Space Coaster, tons of MGM cartoons like Tom & Jerry, plus lots of Disney Cartoon Parade volumes easily make this player a must have for those who babysit.
It still remains my favorite format. Sadly, all the movies and players were stolen/destroyed when mom passed away in 1998. I was unable to retrieve those in time before her house got ransacked. I'm currently looking for a CED player so I can start collecting again. |
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I have already said it, but I will again.
Welcome to CEDmagic!!!! It's so good to see people come in with stories like yours!!! I bought my first player in Sept 1982, and it was love at first sight!! in October, I lost my 23 year old sister in an auto accident. My player and movies helped me get through some rough times that year. That is one of the reasons I love the format, one of many.
The things that are listed on Wikipedia as "negative" aspects, the skips or jumps, is just one of the formats quirks. If a disc has been sitting for 30 years, it is probably good to play them through a few times prior to watching the movie. Works great for me!!!
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My boyfriend of 8-1/2 years claimed to love the vintage, retro stuff. I was 20 years older than him. One day he showed me CEDs and this website. I had heard of laser discs, but not CEDs. I was intrigued and got hooked. I bought thousands of them and five players. I wanted to make him happy. I took them to a house I bought for him thousands and thousands of miles away. Now here I am, no boyfriend and all of these heavy CEDs and players that I can't get rid of. I live in upstate, western NY. No one wants them, and I have no time for ebay. I want them out of my house! I even tried to sell them on this site years ago, but was told I don't live in the right location. Lesson learned.   
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Are you female?  I came close to getting married a couple years ago to someone who was trying to get me to collect a lot less stuff and get rid of a lot of what I had- glad I didn't go through with THAT!
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I just wanted an old lady who is used to my crap to follow me home and nag me properly, and Peg Bundy is not real.
I'm sure if I left Al his Duster it would have been fine, as I've owned one too and we would understand these things!
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