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hiro
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 Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 10:13 am Post subject: |
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Got the SJT-400 in the mail yesterday. The seller didn't install any shipping locks. When I power it on it tries to put itself in loading position and it sounds like something gets stuck (buzzing). Haven't opened it up yet, but this'll also probably be a project, lol.  |
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SelectaVision420
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| Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 10:44 am Post subject: |
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| hiro wrote: | | Got the SJT-400 in the mail yesterday. The seller didn't install any shipping locks. When I power it on it tries to put itself in loading position and it sounds like something gets stuck (buzzing). Haven't opened it up yet, but this'll also probably be a project, lol. |
that sounds like a belt issue to me which is an easy fix, again be weary that i wasnt shipped with locks, it might be in your interest to inform sellers to properly pack these players... did they even give you the remote?
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hiro
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| Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 11:17 am Post subject: |
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| Nah, there was no remote included but I did get the owner's manual. I'm gonna keep an eye out for the remote. I did ask them to pack it up properly, but they didn't. Pretty disappointing. If it wasn't listed for sale "as is" I would complain, but I feel like there's really no point. |
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hiro
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| Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 12:22 pm Post subject: |
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| Oh yeah, that was most definitely a belt issue. It totally disintegrated into a sticky tar. I'm thinking the good belt from my SKT-090 ought to fit once I get it cleaned up though. |
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SelectaVision420
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| Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 1:10 pm Post subject: |
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| hiro wrote: | | Oh yeah, that was most definitely a belt issue. It totally disintegrated into a sticky tar. I'm thinking the good belt from my SKT-090 ought to fit once I get it cleaned up though. |
yes it will work, they are the same chassis
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hiro
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| Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 8:32 pm Post subject: |
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Alright! So after a bit of cleaning I was able to put the belt from the SKT-090 on this new player. I think someone stuck a new belt on the SKT-090 at some point, because the felt ring between the second reduction gear and the protective plastic plate was not there anymore.
For future reference, I also figured out why the SKT-090 wasn't going into "load" mode when I powered it on with no disc in it. The transfer rod had been wound back under the turntable. Until I manually turned the FM gear until it popped back into a normal operating position, all the player would do is spin the turntable. Just in case some other newbie's player is ever stuck in that state.
Back to the SJT-400... it seems to load and reject discs properly! I haven't hooked it up to a TV yet, because the turntable was making an intermittent rasping sound and the display just said "--" even after the disc was spinning and the stylus arm came out over it. If my guess is right, it should change to "0" when the disc starts playing and count the minutes into the side as it plays.
I haven't taken a look at the stylus yet (haven't even really looked into how to get to it) but the rasping sound seemed to fit the description of a dragging turntable in the repair solutions guide. When I looked at the nut on the bottom of the player to find the turntable height adjustment screw I didn't see anything. I don't see one on the SKT-090 either though, so am I looking in the right place? Is it just recessed deeply into the hole?
EDIT: Yep, my hunch about the display was confirmed. While looking into it, I think I found your YouTube channel, SV420. If so, nice work with the Passion of the Christ/Devo video. lol |
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SelectaVision420
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| Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 7:04 am Post subject: |
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| hiro wrote: | Alright! So after a bit of cleaning I was able to put the belt from the SKT-090 on this new player. I think someone stuck a new belt on the SKT-090 at some point, because the felt ring between the second reduction gear and the protective plastic plate was not there anymore.
For future reference, I also figured out why the SKT-090 wasn't going into "load" mode when I powered it on with no disc in it. The transfer rod had been wound back under the turntable. Until I manually turned the FM gear until it popped back into a normal operating position, all the player would do is spin the turntable. Just in case some other newbie's player is ever stuck in that state.
Back to the SJT-400... it seems to load and reject discs properly! I haven't hooked it up to a TV yet, because the turntable was making an intermittent rasping sound and the display just said "--" even after the disc was spinning and the stylus arm came out over it. If my guess is right, it should change to "0" when the disc starts playing and count the minutes into the side as it plays.
I haven't taken a look at the stylus yet (haven't even really looked into how to get to it) but the rasping sound seemed to fit the description of a dragging turntable in the repair solutions guide. When I looked at the nut on the bottom of the player to find the turntable height adjustment screw I didn't see anything. I don't see one on the SKT-090 either though, so am I looking in the right place? Is it just recessed deeply into the hole?
EDIT: Yep, my hunch about the display was confirmed. While looking into it, I think I found your YouTube channel, SV420. If so, nice work with the Passion of the Christ/Devo video. lol |
i dont have the devo disc, so it musta been ryan ( blind fury on here), my name on youtube is, tony fleetwood
we are trying to get more videos together, i thought your 90 might have been stuck in that state, but i thought you said you manually thumbed over the gear, so i wasnt sure if you hadnt maybe finished the cycle off ( since maybe it got somehow out of wack ) or whatever, i did notice the transfer rod can fool you into thinking the player is in the right place and it isnt... the nut on the bottom is just a set screw, you have to loosen it to be able to adjust the tiny allen screw, and when its adjusted, the jam nut secures it. be sure to raise the table enough only to eliminate the noise ( also i found this scraping noise was a lack of lube on the point of the spindle that contacts the adjuster screw ) if you raise the tablet too high it will ruin the stylus and disc. hopefully the stylus isnt ruined in the 400, the one from the 90 will work, but not as well, and it is not recommended if it has the old part number on it
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hiro
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| Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 12:20 pm Post subject: |
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Ah okay, yeah, it was his channel that I found.
Still haven't adjusted the turntable yet, but I did decide to take a look at the stylus cartridge to see if there was anything obviously wrong. Once I got it out, of course, I realized I had no idea what I was looking for. Additionally, there's a little spring-loaded rod in the stylus arm that popped out toward the front of the player when I removed the cartridge, and it really looks like it should go all the way through the arm. As it stands it's sticking out toward the front of the player and I have no idea how to get it back into place again. It doesn't seem to be present on the SKT-090.
The stylus cartridges in both players seem to have the same part number; is that unusual for these two models?
Gotta say, I really appreciate all the help and feedback throughout this process. I'd otherwise be stuck with two non-working players, trying to hunt down the service manuals. |
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SelectaVision420
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| Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2015 3:54 pm Post subject: |
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| hiro wrote: | Ah okay, yeah, it was his channel that I found.
Still haven't adjusted the turntable yet, but I did decide to take a look at the stylus cartridge to see if there was anything obviously wrong. Once I got it out, of course, I realized I had no idea what I was looking for. Additionally, there's a little spring-loaded rod in the stylus arm that popped out toward the front of the player when I removed the cartridge, and it really looks like it should go all the way through the arm. As it stands it's sticking out toward the front of the player and I have no idea how to get it back into place again. It doesn't seem to be present on the SKT-090.
The stylus cartridges in both players seem to have the same part number; is that unusual for these two models?
Gotta say, I really appreciate all the help and feedback throughout this process. I'd otherwise be stuck with two non-working players, trying to hunt down the service manuals. |
what is the part number on the stylus? is there any way you can get me a pic of this sprung rod sticking out?
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hiro
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| Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 10:19 am Post subject: |
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Been a while since I had any time to work on this, but in the meantime I got another short stack of discs in... so now I'm even more determined to get this working!
The part number on both stylus cartridges is 154216. Here's a pic of the rod in question:
http://i.imgur.com/prYac69.jpg
I just linked to it rather than embedding because it's a pretty big image and it doesn't look like this forum supports the bbcode to resize it. You can see the hole on the other side of the arm where the rod will go through (and I assume it's supposed to) but I can't figure out how to get it to stay in. |
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SelectaVision420
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| Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 11:30 am Post subject: |
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| hiro wrote: | Been a while since I had any time to work on this, but in the meantime I got another short stack of discs in... so now I'm even more determined to get this working!
The part number on both stylus cartridges is 154216. Here's a pic of the rod in question:
http://i.imgur.com/prYac69.jpg
I just linked to it rather than embedding because it's a pretty big image and it doesn't look like this forum supports the bbcode to resize it. You can see the hole on the other side of the arm where the rod will go through (and I assume it's supposed to) but I can't figure out how to get it to stay in. |
good the 154216 is the better cartridge
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SelectaVision420
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| Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 11:41 am Post subject: |
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it appears to me someone took the e clip off and lost it, if you push that rod all the way in like it should sit, is there a lock ring on the very end of the rod? its part number 122 in my manual, you could always use the e clip from the 090 as an example, bring it to a hardware store and see if you can find another
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blindfury420
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| Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 12:00 pm Post subject: |
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That protruding rod is normal. I normally only see it j/k 400's but it is normal and it goes back in the arm when the stylus arm returns to home. I forget its exact function.
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hiro
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| Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 12:07 pm Post subject: |
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Hmm okay, I must have just not noticed it until I opened up the stylus arm to get at the cartridge. It's definitely not there on the 090, I can see the holes in the arm where it would go but there's no rod there.
Still gotta adjust the turntable height, which I'm not looking forward to as that nut seems to be pretty reluctant to move. In the meantime, I did hook the 400 up to a TV and the OSD seemed to work fine. When I loaded a disc the stylus moved forward but all I got was a click every few seconds and no video (display on the unit read "--" the whole time). I'm hoping that's just due to the turntable sitting too low. |
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SelectaVision420
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| Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 12:39 pm Post subject: |
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| hiro wrote: | Hmm okay, I must have just not noticed it until I opened up the stylus arm to get at the cartridge. It's definitely not there on the 090, I can see the holes in the arm where it would go but there's no rod there.
Still gotta adjust the turntable height, which I'm not looking forward to as that nut seems to be pretty reluctant to move. In the meantime, I did hook the 400 up to a TV and the OSD seemed to work fine. When I loaded a disc the stylus moved forward but all I got was a click every few seconds and no video (display on the unit read "--" the whole time). I'm hoping that's just due to the turntable sitting too low. |
adjusting the turntable height is easy, just only raise it a teeny bit, enough to make the sound go away the nut is only to lock your adjustment into place, the allen wrench is what moves the height, you should only have to loosen the jam nut a bit to allow the allen screw to move
as far as that sprung rod, i guess only the 100 and up have it? im not sure, i was looking in a lessor manual, but it still shows the higher up models, and the 090 and 100 are in the same manual, but it doesnt say anything about that rod... thats weird... but those e clips arent hard to find, but the size of it i dont know?
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| blindfury420 wrote: | | That protruding rod is normal. I normally only see it j/k 400's but it is normal and it goes back in the arm when the stylus arm returns to home. I forget its exact function. |
you know what now that you mention it it might have to do with the stylus sweep function?
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