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ketonic_dude

Joined: 20 Jul 2012 Posts: 450 Location: Mankato, MN
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Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2014 7:01 pm Post subject: Blank Grey Caddies? |
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Hey all. So I found these on an ebay listing and managed to get them from the guy. I'm still not sure what exactly they are but they were too cool to pass up. I've got 2 grey (yes they are grey) caddies, and two white ones. They all have something written in pencil and some have stickers on the bottom. Anyone else seem anything like these before. I checked them and they have the correct discs that are written in pencil and I didn't notice anything difference about them. Just thought someone might have a better idea. I know I've seen grey caddies before, I want to say it was Ryan that posted some pics. But they were NFL discs or something. If I recall correctly Jesse had a special jukebox disc in a grey caddy but I'm not positive. Just wondering if I stumbled onto something good.
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SelectaVision420

Joined: 25 Mar 2012 Posts: 1226 Location: Hartford
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Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2014 7:10 pm Post subject: |
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cool i woulda bought that too! _________________ Sears 274 & 934(80150,10&11350),sft100,sgt250,sjt090,100,101,200,300,400,vp550, VP4000!
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Brian Stearns
Joined: 02 Jan 2014 Posts: 23 Location: Needham,MA
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Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2014 10:11 pm Post subject: |
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| They would good to make mock CED covers of movies that were never relesed on CED |
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blindfury420

Joined: 26 Jan 2011 Posts: 1036
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Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 2:11 pm Post subject: |
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I got them from Glenn in Pennsylvania and he got them from an old rca employee!
Its been a while but iirc two people told me they are test pressings/first runs off the die, which are supposed to be really good quality! Mine were amazing quality too! They were very well taken care of though.
I got them with these!
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McMicheal 5001h
Hitachi VIP202P
JCP 686-5705
RCA SKT265, SKT300
RCA SJT400X, SJT425 |
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ketonic_dude

Joined: 20 Jul 2012 Posts: 450 Location: Mankato, MN
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Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 3:13 pm Post subject: |
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| I remember seeing you post these at one point Ryan but I didn't realize they were the exact same thing as the ones I got. Very cool. I did notice on one disc it had a #5 scratched into it. I wonder if that means it was the 5th disc off the press. Mine appear to have been stacked at one point so they are very jumpy. But still cool none the less. |
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dumbchemist
Joined: 27 Oct 2011 Posts: 291 Location: Central New York
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2014 7:28 am Post subject: |
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It is too bad that there is not a supply of blank caddies in the various colors. I am thinking of a project for reprinting the cover art. Some CED's have good discs; but, very poor cover art. Either the art work is dirty (you see this on white labels) or there are a lot of digs or scratches in the paper. i was thinking that someone could scan the artwork from a new CED (i.e. in cellophane) and make a computer file. Then, using an inkjet plotter, you could reprint the artwork onto self adhesive paper. Of course, the next step would be to apply the new artwork onto a blank caddie.
Admittedly, there are not a large number of blank caddies available. I was thinking that it might be possible to remove badly marred artwork off an old caddie that has a bad disc so that the caddie could be reused. The old caddie would have to be cleaned up using some IPA to bring it make to a like-new state.
Any thoughts on this idea? _________________ Sears 934-54780150 & 934.54810350,
Realistic CED-1
1-SJT-400. 2-SJT-200 & 1-SJT-090.
CLD-D406, CLD-980.
MDP-600, MDP-MR1. |
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ketonic_dude

Joined: 20 Jul 2012 Posts: 450 Location: Mankato, MN
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2014 11:44 am Post subject: |
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| Well towards the end of production they were just pasting labels over labels from caddies that didn't get used. So titles like Back to the Future, Friday the 13th Part 5, and so on, are all posted over another label. I don't see why you couldn't take an On Golden Pond or other common disc and just post your new printed label over that label. I can't imagine it would look the greatest from an ink jet printer, you would be better off going to a kinkos and having it professionally printed. How that helps. |
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dumbchemist
Joined: 27 Oct 2011 Posts: 291 Location: Central New York
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Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 7:34 am Post subject: |
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| ketonic_dude wrote: | | Well towards the end of production they were just pasting labels over labels from caddies that didn't get used. So titles like Back to the Future, Friday the 13th Part 5, and so on, are all posted over another label. I don't see why you couldn't take an On Golden Pond or other common disc and just post your new printed label over that label. I can't imagine it would look the greatest from an ink jet printer, you would be better off going to a kinkos and having it professionally printed. How that helps. |
The other way to reprint the cover art is to copy a mint label on a color laser printer that can print onto 11X14 paper. (I don't know it they exist though).
I am sure all of us have received a CED's and have found "digs" on their labels. What i do is take tweezers and grab the edge of the dig and pull the dig out. I then put a small drop of Elmer's glue under the dig and lay the dig down. (This is kind of hard to explain, but I think you get the idea). This works for the digs that are still present. Those digs that are completely gone cannot be repaired at all.
One way to clean up a dirty label is to rub it with a slice of bread. Believe it or not this is how paper restorers clean up documents. I have tried it and have had very limited success _________________ Sears 934-54780150 & 934.54810350,
Realistic CED-1
1-SJT-400. 2-SJT-200 & 1-SJT-090.
CLD-D406, CLD-980.
MDP-600, MDP-MR1. |
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ketonic_dude

Joined: 20 Jul 2012 Posts: 450 Location: Mankato, MN
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Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 6:39 pm Post subject: |
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I have seen laser printers that print on those long sheets of paper, but they are usually the giant industrial ones, something Kinkos would probably have. It's just a matter of getting the scan right and connecting the two images together correctly. I'm guessing a full color print like that probably wouldn't be cheap either, in most cases it would probably be cheaper to find a better quality disc.
As far as repairing those rips/tears, I basically do the same thing. I take a tweezers and pull it straight up and try to smooth it out as much as possible. But then I take a glue stick and press the upright torn piece against it and slide the glue stick up so it is evenly coated, then I press the torn piece down and slide my finger over it to smooth out all the little bumps and ridges. If your glue bleeds onto the label a little it's not a big deal cause it dries clear, But I try to wipe any excess off. Some of my repairs you can't even tell they were ripped in the first place.
As for the bread tip, first time hearing of that. Would be great if it works cause after that hard work you can go make a sandwich, lol. What I've done in the past is take a dish cloth and some soft scrub, but a drop onto the clothe and rub it in, then carefully rub away any dirt and debris off the label. Just don't scrub too hard or it will start to take the ink off the label.
Now I gotta go try that bread thing...white or wheat? |
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dumbchemist
Joined: 27 Oct 2011 Posts: 291 Location: Central New York
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Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2014 2:28 am Post subject: |
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| ketonic_dude wrote: | I have seen laser printers that print on those long sheets of paper, but they are usually the giant industrial ones, something Kinkos would probably have. It's just a matter of getting the scan right and connecting the two images together correctly. I'm guessing a full color print like that probably wouldn't be cheap either, in most cases it would probably be cheaper to find a better quality disc.
As far as repairing those rips/tears, I basically do the same thing. I take a tweezers and pull it straight up and try to smooth it out as much as possible. But then I take a glue stick and press the upright torn piece against it and slide the glue stick up so it is evenly coated, then I press the torn piece down and slide my finger over it to smooth out all the little bumps and ridges. If your glue bleeds onto the label a little it's not a big deal cause it dries clear, But I try to wipe any excess off. Some of my repairs you can't even tell they were ripped in the first place.
As for the bread tip, first time hearing of that. Would be great if it works cause after that hard work you can go make a sandwich, lol. What I've done in the past is take a dish cloth and some soft scrub, but a drop onto the clothe and rub it in, then carefully rub away any dirt and debris off the label. Just don't scrub too hard or it will start to take the ink off the label.
Now I gotta go try that bread thing...white or wheat? |
Actually, the source I read did not say which. I would try white first which is what I tried. As I said, I had very limited success. The bread seemed to take off some of the dirt. I like the use of soft scrub and will have to try it. I found out that 91% IPA (isopropyl alcohol) will work to remove some magic markers, but not all of them. IPA will also remove the ink from the label if you scrub too long. _________________ Sears 934-54780150 & 934.54810350,
Realistic CED-1
1-SJT-400. 2-SJT-200 & 1-SJT-090.
CLD-D406, CLD-980.
MDP-600, MDP-MR1. |
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ketonic_dude

Joined: 20 Jul 2012 Posts: 450 Location: Mankato, MN
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Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2014 9:02 am Post subject: |
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| I've also tried that Goof Off for removing sharpie and it takes off anything but it actually eats the plastic of the caddy so it's only for the most extreme measures. Beetlescott says that 409 and Goo Gone are the way to go. I've tried the 409 with limited results but I've used Goo Gone for stickers and it works pretty good. Sometimes it requires a lot of scrubbing though. |
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Pacattack76
Joined: 24 Apr 2014 Posts: 33
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Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2014 1:19 pm Post subject: |
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| I use goo gone on everything and never had a problem with plastic. I used to work at a video game store and we used oops which came in a spray can and it was terrible on cd cases. Melts plastic and turned clear plastic to a foggy white like when superglue is used to repair a crack in plastic. The goo gone i have is the orange scented gel spray. |
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dumbchemist
Joined: 27 Oct 2011 Posts: 291 Location: Central New York
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Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2014 3:45 pm Post subject: |
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An update:
I called my local office supply store about color copying. It seems that they have a color copier that can do 11 X 17 copying. I took a good CED (The Adventures of the Little Prince) to the store and had them make copies of the front and back of the caddy. I have another CED of the same movie that has the front label with 2 defects: a paper label glued to the bottom right corner of the front and ink drawn on the EN of the word Adventures at the top of the caddy label. Unfortunately, the color copy is 11" across and the CED is 12 3/4" across so there will be a seam where the good label ends.
I will have pictures posted on this thread as I work out some problems: i.e. the target caddy label has faded slightly which makes matching of the color copy to the target CED difficult; what adhesive to use to fasten the color copy over the old label and how to handle bubbles in the original label. _________________ Sears 934-54780150 & 934.54810350,
Realistic CED-1
1-SJT-400. 2-SJT-200 & 1-SJT-090.
CLD-D406, CLD-980.
MDP-600, MDP-MR1. |
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emonegarand
Joined: 01 Jun 2014 Posts: 3 Location: Elizabethtown, PA
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Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2014 1:50 pm Post subject: |
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| You could probably get a decently priced wide format photo printer with CMYKLMLC separate cartridges that supports Super B (13x19) You'd just need to trim it. You can get a pretty decent high resolution print with those for the price but its not going to be as good as a professional print job. I recreated covers for DVD cases using a printer like that, the quality was pretty good as long as your source image is the proper resolution. |
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