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L8gr8harry
Joined: 17 Apr 2013 Posts: 78 Location: Charleston, SC
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Posted: Sun Jun 23, 2013 11:52 am Post subject: Player just hums loudly disc's not Working |
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Well I finally got around to hooking up the Hitachi vip1000 today and she won't play any disc's. I have tried three seperate disc's and once inserted the p[layer will hum loudly and the stand by light will begin to blink..and the humming stops. I'm afraid I don't know enough about the players or where to begin....Any help would be appreciated.
TY
Harry _________________ SFT 100
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SelectaVision420
Joined: 25 Mar 2012 Posts: 1424 Location: Hartford
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Posted: Sun Jun 23, 2013 12:00 pm Post subject: |
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its prolly the function belt slipping piece of cake (: _________________ (2)Sears 274 & 934(80150,10&11350), sft100, sgt250, sjt 090-400, vp550, VDR3000, VP2000 & 4000
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L8gr8harry
Joined: 17 Apr 2013 Posts: 78 Location: Charleston, SC
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Posted: Sun Jun 23, 2013 12:22 pm Post subject: |
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I love your optimism my friend, i'll have to pick a good spot to open her up and take a look inside...and then scratch my head alot... _________________ SFT 100
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SelectaVision420
Joined: 25 Mar 2012 Posts: 1424 Location: Hartford
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Posted: Sun Jun 23, 2013 1:08 pm Post subject: |
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L8gr8harry wrote: | I love your optimism my friend, i'll have to pick a good spot to open her up and take a look inside...and then scratch my head alot... |
take the top off and put a disc in, try to locate the noise and pinpoint it. you might have to move the circuit board on top, but compared to a vcr these are simple to service _________________ (2)Sears 274 & 934(80150,10&11350), sft100, sgt250, sjt 090-400, vp550, VDR3000, VP2000 & 4000
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L8gr8harry
Joined: 17 Apr 2013 Posts: 78 Location: Charleston, SC
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Posted: Sun Jun 23, 2013 4:36 pm Post subject: |
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Looks like the loading belt is all stretched out, when I insert a disc it just hums I can't see it move. Hopefully it's just the belt itself and not the whole motor. Is there a belt equivalent out there or do I just hit the product page and wait for new belts?.
Harry _________________ SFT 100
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Hitachi VIP 1000
The RJ Special
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SelectaVision420
Joined: 25 Mar 2012 Posts: 1424 Location: Hartford
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Posted: Sun Jun 23, 2013 4:41 pm Post subject: |
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L8gr8harry wrote: | Looks like the loading belt is all stretched out, when I insert a disc it just hums I can't see it move. Hopefully it's just the belt itself and not the whole motor. Is there a belt equivalent out there or do I just hit the product page and wait for new belts?.
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i get my belts from the store on here, all the belts i have gotten work good! they are easy to order too its pretty descriptive what belts are for what _________________ (2)Sears 274 & 934(80150,10&11350), sft100, sgt250, sjt 090-400, vp550, VDR3000, VP2000 & 4000
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L8gr8harry
Joined: 17 Apr 2013 Posts: 78 Location: Charleston, SC
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Posted: Sun Jun 23, 2013 5:13 pm Post subject: |
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heck with it, just ordered two of everything, TY oh TY Mr. Howe...and Tony TY for all the help..I did say I wanted to learn all about the players. _________________ SFT 100
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SelectaVision420
Joined: 25 Mar 2012 Posts: 1424 Location: Hartford
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Posted: Sun Jun 23, 2013 5:28 pm Post subject: |
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L8gr8harry wrote: | heck with it, just ordered two of everything, TY oh TY Mr. Howe...and Tony TY for all the help..I did say I wanted to learn all about the players. |
i have a sears player which is a hitachi chassis and i had no problem changing the belts
sorry for the blurry pic, but here is mine with the board flipped to the side for access
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L8gr8harry
Joined: 17 Apr 2013 Posts: 78 Location: Charleston, SC
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Posted: Sun Jun 23, 2013 6:17 pm Post subject: |
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I got her opened up and the board moved to the back, have it propped up so its out of the way. The old belt is laying there next to it, it was so old and stiff it held its shape when i removed it from the wheels; looks like the arm drive belt is just as bad. I touched it and it had no give to it what so ever, like a pathetic limp noodle. _________________ SFT 100
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L8gr8harry
Joined: 17 Apr 2013 Posts: 78 Location: Charleston, SC
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Posted: Sun Jun 23, 2013 6:21 pm Post subject: |
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Lets see if this works for the Images....
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SelectaVision420
Joined: 25 Mar 2012 Posts: 1424 Location: Hartford
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Posted: Sun Jun 23, 2013 6:27 pm Post subject: |
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if u have a good elastic band around it will work temporarily _________________ (2)Sears 274 & 934(80150,10&11350), sft100, sgt250, sjt 090-400, vp550, VDR3000, VP2000 & 4000
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Rixrex
Joined: 28 May 2004 Posts: 1222
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Posted: Sun Jun 23, 2013 6:42 pm Post subject: |
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See my notes on your other post about this player. You can get belts of the proper size here very easily. I get mine locally at an electonics supply place.
Be very careful replacing that belt. You do not want to force any of the plastic gearing that lifts and lowers that tray if you turn the pully manually. There is a cicumferential tension spring in that assembly that can break loose and the plastic gearing will not hold up to too much tension pushing them past the open and/or close positions. That is the belt that lifts and lowers the tray AKA function drive belt.
You also want to check out the stylus arm loading belt which is situation right under the rear of the stylus arm. That belt is the one that moves the stylus arm out to the edge of the disc, At that point the tooth geared advancing belt take over. If the stylus arm belt is bad or broken, then you have to gingerly reach under the stylus arm and turn the pully wheel that moves the arm out so you can access it. I've known people who turned the pully the wrong way, so watch the arm closely while you turn it. Of course, only need to do this if the belt is bad.
What I'm trying to say is that you need to proceed carefuully and cautiously because, unlike the RCA players, there are not that many parts machines out there for this model. |
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L8gr8harry
Joined: 17 Apr 2013 Posts: 78 Location: Charleston, SC
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Posted: Sun Jun 23, 2013 7:43 pm Post subject: |
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I haven't moved anything yet still in the look what I did stage, I was fixing an old odessey 2 game system on the same table and couldn't take it anymore so I opened her up. I went ahead and 5 minutes after getting to the products page I ordered 2 of each belt, I'm supposed to take off this week end so depending on time I may not get to put her back together until Sunday evening.
I looked at the arm belt and its in the same bad shape, I won't touch that one till I have the replacements and time. Knowledge is power, Ty guys for all the help. _________________ SFT 100
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Rixrex
Joined: 28 May 2004 Posts: 1222
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Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 7:54 am Post subject: |
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If the stylus arm belt is still on the pully and has some tension, and is not all soft and falling apart, best to replace the tray arm first.
Then you can load the player with any common disc, and the stylus arm will move out. That is as long as that stylus arm belt is somewhat okay.
Then you can unplug the player and easil replace the stylus arm belt.
Otherwise, you'll have to lift and hold up the arm slightly with one hand and carefully turn the larger arm pully with a finger to get the arm out of the way. Then it can be replaced.
Watch the arm closely while doing this, so to see that it moves in the proper direction. If you feel resisitance on the pully, that's the wrong way to turn. I think it's a clockwise turn, but not 100% sure on that. Anyone else remember? |
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L8gr8harry
Joined: 17 Apr 2013 Posts: 78 Location: Charleston, SC
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Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 7:04 pm Post subject: |
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See It never occurred to me to just let the player run and move the arm out of the way on its own, last thing i need to do is break something I can't afford to have you fix _________________ SFT 100
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Dude111
Joined: 28 Jun 2013 Posts: 164
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Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 3:13 pm Post subject: |
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I saw a player for sale the other day that has the same problem.... (Just HUMS when they turn it on) -- Hopefully its an easy fix for ya buddy
If we can determine what is causing it,i might buy the one I saw and just fix er myself... |
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Rixrex
Joined: 28 May 2004 Posts: 1222
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Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 6:40 am Post subject: |
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Yes, but what make and model player is it? |
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L8gr8harry
Joined: 17 Apr 2013 Posts: 78 Location: Charleston, SC
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Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 3:27 pm Post subject: |
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Dude, Mine is a Hitachi vip1000. We are going to go with the belts being old and worn for now. In taking the top off I could see that the belt was so loose it wasn't lowering the tray into position. I ordered 2 new sets of belts from right here on the products page, once they arrive I'll post some not so large photos of the repairs. _________________ SFT 100
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The RJ Special
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L8gr8harry
Joined: 17 Apr 2013 Posts: 78 Location: Charleston, SC
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Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 10:00 am Post subject: |
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Just got in the belts, I'm just going to do all the belts and drop in a disc to see what happens. Has everyone ordered from the parts page before?? I love the inserts, that's great. TY for the great stuff. _________________ SFT 100
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Dude111
Joined: 28 Jun 2013 Posts: 164
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Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 11:52 am Post subject: |
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Im hopefull she works for ya |
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L8gr8harry
Joined: 17 Apr 2013 Posts: 78 Location: Charleston, SC
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Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 5:37 pm Post subject: |
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Changed all the belts in the player, dropped in a test disk and she works like a champ. looks better than my 100w with the new stylus, TY to all for the help and suggestions..Big TY to our great products page here. _________________ SFT 100
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SelectaVision420
Joined: 25 Mar 2012 Posts: 1424 Location: Hartford
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Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 6:03 pm Post subject: |
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glad to hear it! _________________ (2)Sears 274 & 934(80150,10&11350), sft100, sgt250, sjt 090-400, vp550, VDR3000, VP2000 & 4000
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Dude111
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Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 6:04 pm Post subject: |
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Very good news!!!!!!
I wonder if the existing belts could have been tightend? (So ya wouldnt have to spend money to replace them)
Thank you for letting us know!!
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Rixrex
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Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 7:12 pm Post subject: |
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Not usually. Existing belts that have gotten soft or turned to a melted goo just have to be changed.
But old belts that still seem to be in good shape and have stretched a little can be brought back to snugness by sitting overnight in 100% pure ammonia. It works, I have done it on several CED and LD belts so far with really good results. |
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