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SelectaVision420
Joined: 25 Mar 2012 Posts: 1424 Location: Hartford
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Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 6:07 pm Post subject: just battled the goop in my j300! |
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so as many of you know i was the lucky purchaser of a new in box sjt300, knowing this, i knew that the function belt was wrecked! anyway enjoy the pics! the whole thing took me about 20 minutes to do!
plays great, but its a bit noisy, im gona take it back apart and lube the turntable if i can
_________________ (2)Sears 274 & 934(80150,10&11350), sft100, sgt250, sjt 090-400, vp550, VDR3000, VP2000 & 4000
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Jesse Skeen
Joined: 28 May 2004 Posts: 575 Location: Sacramento, CA
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Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 7:24 pm Post subject: |
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Aaagh! What is with all these people playing their CEDs on a widescreen TV in S-T-R-E-T-C-H mode??? _________________ Videodisc and stereo sound- there's no better value around! |
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ketonic_dude
Joined: 20 Jul 2012 Posts: 547 Location: Mankato, MN
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Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 7:35 pm Post subject: |
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I found that rubbing alcohal cleaned up the melted belts really well too. |
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SelectaVision420
Joined: 25 Mar 2012 Posts: 1424 Location: Hartford
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Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 8:34 pm Post subject: |
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Jesse Skeen wrote: | Aaagh! What is with all these people playing their CEDs on a widescreen TV in S-T-R-E-T-C-H mode??? |
this television is too new and i have no idea how to change its settings... i need to find a really big crt from the 80's _________________ (2)Sears 274 & 934(80150,10&11350), sft100, sgt250, sjt 090-400, vp550, VDR3000, VP2000 & 4000
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Xian
Joined: 21 May 2011 Posts: 106 Location: Missouri
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Rixrex
Joined: 28 May 2004 Posts: 1222
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Rixrex
Joined: 28 May 2004 Posts: 1222
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Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 12:13 am Post subject: |
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Forgot to ask, is the noise a scuffing or scraping sound? Or something else? Different types of noise can often indicate the specific problem. |
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blindfury420
Joined: 26 Jan 2011 Posts: 1036
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Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 4:48 pm Post subject: |
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Jesse Skeen wrote: | Aaagh! What is with all these people playing their CEDs on a widescreen TV in S-T-R-E-T-C-H mode??? |
You ever stop and think about how tone of voice doesn't translate well on the internet? You really just sound mean when you could help like rix below and say maybe your remote has the option? Like you did for me on youtube. I don't have a remote that will allow me to pick what aspect ratio Though after doing some research into my tv it has the option, but guess what? Not on the tv menu or options, only the remote. So 4:3 aint happening anytime soon for me! _________________ I dont own
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Jesse Skeen
Joined: 28 May 2004 Posts: 575 Location: Sacramento, CA
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Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 10:17 pm Post subject: |
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I just call 'em like I see 'em. Displaying 4x3 material improperly on widescreen TVs is a disease. Anyone who knows anything about video should know this. It's the flip-side of people who had their DVD players set for a 16x9 TV when they were using a 4x3, so they were happily watching a squashed picture. _________________ Videodisc and stereo sound- there's no better value around! |
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blindfury420
Joined: 26 Jan 2011 Posts: 1036
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Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 10:28 pm Post subject: |
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hahah seriously Jesse? Like you've never done something wrong? haahha It's a disease? Talk about silly, ffs. Next time try not to be so prickish! We can all call it like we see it, but some have a filter that tells them not to be a complete arse. _________________ I dont own
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7jlong
Joined: 01 Jun 2004 Posts: 187
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Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 2:58 pm Post subject: |
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Just pretend that Tony was actually in the process of watching Monty Python and the Holy Grail - or Amarcord - or Manhattan - and the zoom suddenly makes perfect sense. |
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Jesse Skeen
Joined: 28 May 2004 Posts: 575 Location: Sacramento, CA
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Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 3:50 pm Post subject: |
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Except those would be stretched out and STILL have the "dreaded black bars" on top and bottom. I've seen plenty of displays configured that way too, especially restaurants showing ESPN letterboxed in standard-def. It's mind-boggling how people see nothing wrong with that. The ONLY time a 480i source should be stretched if it's an older DVD player or one of the few squeezed laserdiscs which were made to be stretched out to proper proportions.
And no, I've never done anything wrong with my video equipment. Worst was one time I moved and accidentally reversed the left and right channels of my SGT-250 (since its audio outputs are backwards from other equipment) but I noticed it right away when watching a stereo movie and fixed it. _________________ Videodisc and stereo sound- there's no better value around! |
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blindfury420
Joined: 26 Jan 2011 Posts: 1036
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Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 3:59 pm Post subject: |
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Jesse Skeen wrote: |
And no, I've never done anything wrong with my video equipment. |
Haha cool. But I bet you have done something wrong elsewhere in life before, where you went, oh I should have known or noticed. Just saying, if it pisses you off so much help cure the disease hahahah. Why point and say, uhh you are doing it wrong newb then offer zero help? Just a pointless mean post right? _________________ I dont own
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7jlong
Joined: 01 Jun 2004 Posts: 187
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Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 4:22 pm Post subject: |
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Jesse Skeen wrote: | Except those would be stretched out and STILL have the "dreaded black bars" on top and bottom. |
Well, if we're going to get all particular about it - based on the text in the images that Tony posted it doesn't look stretched to me, it looks zoomed. The font looks correctly proportioned. And zoom is, in fact, rather handy for the few letterboxed CEDs that exist, not to mention letterboxed Laserdiscs.
Besides all that, I was actually just kidding around, but anyway... nice cleanup on that 300! |
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SelectaVision420
Joined: 25 Mar 2012 Posts: 1424 Location: Hartford
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Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 2:20 pm Post subject: |
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sorry my television is an LG and it has a remote like a wii and i cant for the life of me figure out how to change the aspect ratio, it is way to futureistic to be paired with my 300 and 400, but its where i entertain my guests and all of my friends have no clue about aspect ratios im uploading a vid now of noise comparisons between my 2 players in my living room, it seems to be a lot quieter from the last time i used it, maybe its just cus it was never played? _________________ (2)Sears 274 & 934(80150,10&11350), sft100, sgt250, sjt 090-400, vp550, VDR3000, VP2000 & 4000
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SelectaVision420
Joined: 25 Mar 2012 Posts: 1424 Location: Hartford
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Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 2:37 pm Post subject: |
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blindfury420 wrote: | Jesse Skeen wrote: |
And no, I've never done anything wrong with my video equipment. |
Haha cool. But I bet you have done something wrong elsewhere in life before, where you went, oh I should have known or noticed. Just saying, if it pisses you off so much help cure the disease hahahah. Why point and say, uhh you are doing it wrong newb then offer zero help? Just a pointless mean post right? |
.... i do something wrong every day, im used to it _________________ (2)Sears 274 & 934(80150,10&11350), sft100, sgt250, sjt 090-400, vp550, VDR3000, VP2000 & 4000
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SelectaVision420
Joined: 25 Mar 2012 Posts: 1424 Location: Hartford
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blindfury420
Joined: 26 Jan 2011 Posts: 1036
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Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 4:34 pm Post subject: |
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Sounds like you need to set turntable height on platter and or below player. Sounds like its rubbing on the disc transfer rod cap. If you don't have a way to measure and set 30/32nds on the tt shaft just try and adjust below player with an alan wrench ( usually smallest in a standard set, 1/16" hex key, ) a quarter turn at a time until sound goes away. http://www.cedmagic.com/tech-info/repair-solutions.html#dragging-turntable _________________ I dont own
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SelectaVision420
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Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 5:50 pm Post subject: |
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thanks! all my allens are at work, ill have to biring then home to try this _________________ (2)Sears 274 & 934(80150,10&11350), sft100, sgt250, sjt 090-400, vp550, VDR3000, VP2000 & 4000
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Jesse Skeen
Joined: 28 May 2004 Posts: 575 Location: Sacramento, CA
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Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 7:21 pm Post subject: |
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So it's easier to adjust the turntable height than it is to set a TV to the correct setting? _________________ Videodisc and stereo sound- there's no better value around! |
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SelectaVision420
Joined: 25 Mar 2012 Posts: 1424 Location: Hartford
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Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2012 5:49 am Post subject: |
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Jesse Skeen wrote: | So it's easier to adjust the turntable height than it is to set a TV to the correct setting? |
im more mechanical hands on then digital doodad person. thank god the ced players dont have digital clocks because i prolly couldnt set that either. i could rebuild your transmission in about 2 hours, but aspect ratios and digital television and stuff mean nothing to me _________________ (2)Sears 274 & 934(80150,10&11350), sft100, sgt250, sjt 090-400, vp550, VDR3000, VP2000 & 4000
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Rixrex
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Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2012 8:23 am Post subject: |
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SelectaVision420 wrote: | sorry my television is an LG and it has a remote like a wii and i cant for the life of me figure out how to change the aspect ratio, it is way to futureistic to be paired with my 300 and 400, but its where i entertain my guests and all of my friends have no clue about aspect ratios :) im uploading a vid now of noise comparisons between my 2 players in my living room, it seems to be a lot quieter from the last time i used it, maybe its just cus it was never played? |
Now you know how your grandparents or parents felt when they could not figure out how to program their VCR and you had to do it for them.
ur older minds get filled up with outdated and often useless information so we gradually become obsolete, whereas young people have empty minds waiting to be filled, ha ha. And we all get to vote, isn't that great! |
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SelectaVision420
Joined: 25 Mar 2012 Posts: 1424 Location: Hartford
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Posted: Thu May 30, 2013 7:30 am Post subject: |
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okay so, its pretty obvious how sidetracked i can get with work or lack there of and other projects i have at the moment, but i finally got around to diagnosing my new in box 300. now i am still learning about these players as i go, so far i have more experience with my sears player and my sgt250, but this was a really simple fix and actually was my first guess at what was wrong!
the player sat in its box since it was new and apparently not only did the belt go in it, but the turntable shaft just needed a bit of lube! while i was there to make sure the turntable wasnt dragging on anything i set it down till it dragged, then i turned the allen while spinning the platter slowly until it didnt scrape at all, then i turned the adjustment screw like 1/2 a turn more, i didnt put a ruler to it, but it seems to play well so why mess with success?
this video is me turning the player on for the first time after lubing the turntable shaft and its just as quiet as my other players now!
http://youtu.be/kYVSqtXRTyM
here is the video i made of how it sounded compared to my 400
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95RGOTDoGkA&feature=youtu.be _________________ (2)Sears 274 & 934(80150,10&11350), sft100, sgt250, sjt 090-400, vp550, VDR3000, VP2000 & 4000
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SelectaVision420
Joined: 25 Mar 2012 Posts: 1424 Location: Hartford
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Posted: Thu May 30, 2013 10:30 am Post subject: |
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heres some of the pics i took, plus a few extra
some handy tools
my different stylus' im hoarding lol
and my "extras drawer"
i tried to use this to measure my turntable height
hope y'all enjoyed! _________________ (2)Sears 274 & 934(80150,10&11350), sft100, sgt250, sjt 090-400, vp550, VDR3000, VP2000 & 4000
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Rixrex
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Posted: Thu May 30, 2013 1:00 pm Post subject: |
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Estimating the turntable height is okay. It can work. It just has to be high enough to not scrape bottom, and then that's it.
If too low, you get the scrape, and if too high it either won't play or plays very badly.
I have cleaned 3 goo belts in the past week. My preference is pure ammonia like what the RCA techs used to use, and old toothbrush. Works really fast, wipes up clean, cleans your hands too, and no residue. |
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SelectaVision420
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Posted: Thu May 30, 2013 3:18 pm Post subject: |
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Rixrex wrote: | Estimating the turntable height is okay. It can work. It just has to be high enough to not scrape bottom, and then that's it.
If too low, you get the scrape, and if too high it either won't play or plays very badly.
I have cleaned 3 goo belts in the past week. My preference is pure ammonia like what the RCA techs used to use, and old toothbrush. Works really fast, wipes up clean, cleans your hands too, and no residue. |
omg i had that reside on my hands and it drove me bonkers! i had to use nail polish remover to get it off lol _________________ (2)Sears 274 & 934(80150,10&11350), sft100, sgt250, sjt 090-400, vp550, VDR3000, VP2000 & 4000
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Rixrex
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Posted: Fri May 31, 2013 7:31 am Post subject: |
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That works, but don't use nail polish remover on any parts. It might contain acetone that can cause damage to some plastics.
Really, ammonia works the best. If you don't like it at 100% strength, you can use the glass cleaner that has ammonia in it. |
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SelectaVision420
Joined: 25 Mar 2012 Posts: 1424 Location: Hartford
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Posted: Fri May 31, 2013 10:34 am Post subject: |
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Rixrex wrote: | That works, but don't use nail polish remover on any parts. It might contain acetone that can cause damage to some plastics.
Really, ammonia works the best. If you don't like it at 100% strength, you can use the glass cleaner that has ammonia in it. |
yes very smart, i didnt use it on any of the pulleys, i used dawn to clean them actually lol _________________ (2)Sears 274 & 934(80150,10&11350), sft100, sgt250, sjt 090-400, vp550, VDR3000, VP2000 & 4000
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Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 7:51 pm Post subject: |
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At least it wasn't ectoplasm from a bad copy of Ghostbusters. _________________ A New Vista of RCA Victor COLOR! |
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