CED VideoDisc and Player Discussion

dr8track · Joined: 29 Aug 2010 Posts: 48

I'm trying to get one of my two CED players to work. They both originally worked fine, but both developed different problems. The problem I'm having with the Sears is this;

When I load a disc I can hear the motor start up and the Red Side 1 light comes on, but nothing else happens.

If I take the cover off I can see that the disc is just sitting there and not dropping down into the player and spinning.

If I slip the disc holder back in it releases the CED and the motor stops spinning.

Wondering if anyone can tell me why the disc is not dropping down and going into the play mode. Any advice would be appreciated.

deantjeep · Joined: 03 Aug 2010 Posts: 312 Location: Newberg, OR

Hi, I just received a free Sears player, an older model from your particular player, and it had the same issue. The motor spins up, but the disc will not drop down to the turntable to play. The answer is to replace the loading belt (http://cedmagic.com/tech-info/belt-replacement-guide/vip1000-chassis.html). Use this link to view where the belt is located.
I purchased a replacement belt from Tom at CEDmagic.
My free player now works like new. It is absolutely quiet, smooth loading, and great picture and sound. The stylus is in great shape. These are not easy to find either. I have 3 of them, 2 of which I kept from an old Realistic player that I tossed during the last move.

Hope this helps you out! Good luck!

dr8track · Joined: 29 Aug 2010 Posts: 48

dr8track · Joined: 29 Aug 2010 Posts: 48

deantjeep · Joined: 03 Aug 2010 Posts: 312 Location: Newberg, OR

Yes, the belt was still there and intact, however as I watched the loading process, I could see that the belt was not tight enough to operate the loading process. It would just slip and the loading motor would just spin without moving the belt. Once I replaced the belt, I could see everything moving properly and the loading motor spun, rotating the new belt and the disc dropped onto the turntable.

dr8track · Joined: 29 Aug 2010 Posts: 48

deantjeep · Joined: 03 Aug 2010 Posts: 312 Location: Newberg, OR

I hope it works out for you!

I ordered from Tom, all 3 belts for this player and had to replace 2 of the 3.

Good Luck!

dr8track · Joined: 29 Aug 2010 Posts: 48

deantjeep · Joined: 03 Aug 2010 Posts: 312 Location: Newberg, OR

Hi there,

With the new loading belt in place, does the disc now load and drop onto the turntable? If so, then you did fix that problem.

Next to check is to open the player and watch the arm drive belt. Make sure this belt is working and not slipping. I had to replace this belt when I replaced the loading belt in my player. It had too much slack in it, stretched with age, so I replaced it. I didn't try to load and play a disc prior to changing both belts.

After that check the timing belt, although I never had one of those fail.

Do you know for sure if your stylus is good? Players do all sorts of strange things when the stylus goes bad.

Maybe some other owners can provide you with additional information, should they have encountered the same problem.

Good Luck!

dr8track · Joined: 29 Aug 2010 Posts: 48

deantjeep · Joined: 03 Aug 2010 Posts: 312 Location: Newberg, OR

Sounds exactly like my issues with my player. Changing out that arm drive belt should solve your issue.

I use to have an old Realistic CED1 player, which I bought new when they came out at Radio Shack. It finally died for good and I tossed it out during my move to Oregon. I kept my stylii (2), the original box and manual from the player. Glad I did, as the stylii work perfectly in this new (old) Sears player and the player fits perfectly in the box.

What is nice about this player is that even though it is mono, it has the RCA AV outputs. The 90 and 100 players don't have AV outputs, only the RF output. This old Sears player also runs absolutely quiet, very smooth operation.

Hope you get your player up and running with the new belt!

dr8track · Joined: 29 Aug 2010 Posts: 48

Well, I find myself in the same situation I was in two years ago when I originally posted about both my players. Each of them once again has a problem. While I troubleshoot my RCA I thought I'd try to solve the issues with my Sears player again. The drive belt has been replaced, but that only partially solved the problem. The player plays fine until about midway on the disc. As it nears the midway point you can hear a clicking noise. Then, after clicking for a bit it begins to skip at that point and will not go forward.
I don't recall now if I ever replaced the arm drive belt. Does it sound like this could be the issue? Also, a couple years ago I believe i was referencing a troubleshooting section here on the forum, but I can't seem to locate that now.
I'm not sure where the belt are located on this particular player.

Rixrex · Joined: 28 May 2004 Posts: 1222

That belt is a toothed belt at the rear left side of the player looking from the front. Maybe that's the trouble.

If you can run the plyer with the cover off, maybe you can listen to find out where the clicking is coming from to track it down.

dr8track · Joined: 29 Aug 2010 Posts: 48

Rixrex · Joined: 28 May 2004 Posts: 1222

Okay, the toothed belt ought to be visible looking at the rear of the player, maybe from the lower part of from underneath. You may only be able to see a small part of it.

You should also look for an obstruction that stops the stylus arm from moving forward and causes the belt to slip gear and click. I'm thinking that's the clicking sound, if it's not the belt having worn teeth at that point.

It will take a lot of peering in, between, and around blockages, and a good strong flashlight.

dr8track · Joined: 29 Aug 2010 Posts: 48

SelectaVision420 · Joined: 25 Mar 2012 Posts: 1226 Location: Hartford

the toothed belt is at the back of the player, in mine its orange
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dumbchemist · Joined: 27 Oct 2011 Posts: 291 Location: Central New York

This is just an FYI on the Sears players and may apply to other Hitachi style players:

My 934 player that I bought in 1983 was having a problem with the stylus assembly being slow to move over to play a disc. The drive arm belt was replaced this past summer so I knew it should not be giving problems. It seemed that the lubricant on the 2 linear bearings for the stylus drive arm at the front and back of the player had gotten sticky (I guess from age.) Because of the way the player is built, it is very hard to get at either one for cleaning. I did what I could do to remove the old grease and then relubricated the bearings with petroleum jelly. I then had the player load and unload a disc a number of times in order to get the stylus arm to move back and spread the jelly on the bearings. The player now works as in the olden days. I did the same treatment on my other 934 player and it responded as well.
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SelectaVision420 · Joined: 25 Mar 2012 Posts: 1226 Location: Hartford

dr8track · Joined: 29 Aug 2010 Posts: 48

Rixrex · Joined: 28 May 2004 Posts: 1222

I would bet that moving the top panel out of the way cleared some weird and tiny obstruction out of the way or particle off the belt, etc. I had these two experiences:

On an RCA SGT 250, the playr always had a scuff/squeak sound when playing. I luricated all over and checked and checked the platter wasn;'t touching and the belt wasn't touching, and so on. Turned out that the top small circuit panel had drooped just enough to cause it to scuff against the top of the center spindle when playing. A little spacer in the screw slot lifted it upo enough to solve the trouble.

Another time, a laserisc player kept skipping backward at the same point in time in any disc. Turns out that was a small particle sitting on the laser assembly track stopping it from moving forward.

dr8track · Joined: 29 Aug 2010 Posts: 48